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kath141
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Feb 8, 2015, 4:29 AM

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Hi!

I was having car problems (crank but no start) and had to get someone to jump start the car.

Drove it around for a couple of hours each day then one day it went again.

Bought a charger but when i took out the battery to charge it the charger went green straight away so i put it back in.

After i put it back in the car date came on and the theft lights on but the car wont lock or "turn off".

How do i sort this out? P.s i haven't actually tried the battery out yet because i am concerned (and scared something mental will happen) should i try it?

Thank you!!
Kat SmileSmile


(This post was edited by kath141 on Feb 8, 2015, 4:34 AM)


Tom Greenleaf
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Feb 8, 2015, 4:43 AM

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Not understanding you totally. It cranks but doesn't start but you got a jump and it did I take it? Then drove it around enough it seems so battery itself would be or show charged.


What problems were/are you having leading up to this? Taking the battery OUT you have no doubt set the anti-theft system to activate and need to at least go thru what ever your procedure is for the car to undo that first.


Wildest guess so far is the battery connections are probably what is wrong and enough to run but not always crank well and enough to charge while it's running.


Taking out or disconnecting a battery also resets things all over. Use a memory saver and know how to use it or expect to go thru procedures as it someone tried to steal the car to reset that as well,


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Feb 8, 2015, 4:56 AM

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Hey! Smile

Sorry! Yeah, leading up to the jump start it was taking a while to start then one day it was cranking but not starting so i phoned up a mechanic and he jump started it.

After that it was fine until i left it for a day then when i went back it, it was cranking again but not starting so i thought it need to be fully charged up so i got a battery charger.

The battery connections. Hmm...i just got it serviced a month a go they should have checked those things right?

Ah! Ok then! I will have a look in the handbook for resetting.

Thank you!!!
Kat.
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Tom Greenleaf
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Feb 8, 2015, 5:38 AM

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First thing is to know your antitheft system either original or aftermarket know how to set and allow it to run as that will be part of the game.


It took a jump and ran so probably just needed more power - know that most "POWER" (amps) is used to crank the engine not just run everything else which while running the alternator does for you and recharges what it lost to start it and seems it did.


That leaves with a "green" light showing when you went to charge it any of......... faulty charger, battery fine but now less amps (power again) than needed or connections weak at battery or other ends of battery cables maybe too. NO - that wouldn't be on an ordinary service for most unless you requested it specially and should now and then.


You probably now set off the alarm such that car thinks it's being stolen AND a weak battery but would show correct voltage for a charger likely what you saw. It was like 1/5th of what it should be to assertively start the car cold - guess. You have to either have it LOAD tested or watch voltages while cranking is a good clue as to how much of what it has gets sucked out to "crank" the engine.


Not sure you understand what I mean. Battery loses let's say horsepower over time and use. So when charged and new was 100% of what it was rated for horsepower (amps) and now less but holds voltage for a quick check. None last forever and nice to know how old it is if you have to write it down on the battery that somewhere after 3-4 years the drop off rate is fast for a sudden problem.


1. Know your theft control system.


2. Charge, load check and or replace battery as needed and still clean terminals.


I kinda think that's about all this really needs for now,


T



kath141
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Feb 8, 2015, 5:53 AM

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Hey! Smile

Ok then! Nah, i get you! I was thinking of buying a load tester when i got the charger. Silly me i should have. Ah well! :P Thank you so much!

I think i will call up the garage tomorrow so they can come and see it. I have had the car for about 4 years now so a new battery might be due.

I have cleaned the terminals and i will ask them to load test it for me. :P We will wait and see!

Thank you so much!! Smile xxx
Take care!
Kat. Smile


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Feb 8, 2015, 6:34 AM

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Your charger cannot tell ypou the condition of your battery. You should remove the battery and bring it in for testing and replace it if it fails testing.



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Tom Greenleaf
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Feb 8, 2015, 6:38 AM

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Load test trick: You actually want to see the voltage drop while under load is really enough for me MOST times.


When without tools all over the place you can get an idea by just look at a dome light or reading light (night helps) and watch how much it dims just during the cranking part or starting. It will dim some but if lots it suggests voltage is dropping too far just for that critical time to run. All items get low voltage that make it run/start and cranking might even be slow - none of that helps a thing.


If you get a voltmeter you want a fast reading one. While cranking, voltage shouldn't ever drop below say 9V and better if not below 10V+ on a good, fully charged battery with proper amps available for the car. Cold matters a lot so weaker ones show up when colder.


Sorry if not fast to get back. I'm in Blizzard hell Northeast US about anywhere it's too much and isn't stopping and when it does expected to go WAY below ZERO and nothing above 32F in forecast. Even I start outdoor vehicles till warmed up when that extreme is expected till engine is warm. Always know battery age to the month - they are marked or encrypted but an old phart like me finds a silver sharpie easier to readCool


Good luck with your fix and let us know how you made out,


T



kath141
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Feb 8, 2015, 6:38 AM

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Hey! Smile

Yeah, thank you! I will! Hopefully it's just the battery and nothing else. Smile

Lol! Thank you guys!! So much! I will definitely use a sharpie! Tongue

Hopefully this will be sorted out in a couple of days! Will definitely let you know. Smile

Take care!
Kat! Smile


(This post was edited by kath141 on Feb 8, 2015, 6:41 AM)






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