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5282jt
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May 7, 2012, 7:05 PM

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I have a 1995 Chevy 1500 Silverado with the small 8 cyl.
I just put 3 galons of pool chlorine in it. I had filled a gas can up with chlorine and forgot about it. How should I drain the tank? Then, what should I do? I just now did it, The truck has not been started, but I need it for work in the morning.
NO MORE CHLORINE IN GAS CANS! I do pressure washing for a job and that's why I grabbed some chlorine up in a gas can. DUMB!!!
Chuck


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May 7, 2012, 7:12 PM

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Stupid advice deleted


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May 7, 2012, 7:17 PM

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That stuff is highly corrosive and you need to drop the tank and get it out of there just as fast as you can. It will destroy about everything, starting with the fuel pump. Do not run the engine or even turn the key on.




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Your lucky that didn't explode. Liquid chlorine is an oxidizer and reacting with enough gasoline can cause it to combust. Hopefully you didn't turn the key on after mixing that, or you'll be replacing the entire fuel system. The tank and pump/sender are goners. The liquid chlorine will rust out the tank in a matter of days.





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May 8, 2012, 6:42 AM

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Get that out post haste as already said. New tank if impractical and new gauge. Too late now but mark containers with what is in them!

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5282jt
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May 8, 2012, 7:49 AM

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Well, my only option last night, was to siphon out the tank. I believe I got everything out and went down with another vehicle and bought 20 gallons of gas [ on a guess I also mixed some boat motor oil in with it for lubrication, thinking it might help? ] and put that in it. I have to take it to work today at 8am. I am a pressure washing contractor and have 3 jobs lined up for today. I have been in business here since 1989, so I am booked ahead and couldn't catch up if I missed a day. I will let you know what happens. I am 63 and in kinda rough shape, so I couldn't drop the tank. Thanks for your help and I wish I could have followed the advice to drop the tank.
Thanks,
Chuck
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Why bother even asking?

You probably should order your fuel pump now and maybe some injectors too. I hope thos cleaning jobs paid well enough for the repairs you caused.




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Probably will have to replace any and everything it could have touched - not good and not cheap,

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[ on a guess I also mixed some boat motor oil in with it for lubrication, thinking it might help? ] and put that in it.

Goodbye catayst very soon, along with a new fuel pump, throttle body, and maybe a few other items too. Would've been cheaper to rent a Ryder truck or UHaul for a couple days until it got taken care of properly.


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May 9, 2012, 8:27 AM

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Well, yesterday morning, when my son got here for work, we didn't just drive the truck away. We pushed it up a ditch, jacked it to an angle-so all the chlorine would be on one bottom corner, let it set a while, drilled a hole in that lower corner and caught what came out. Then put it in some 1 gallon glass jars I have for soaking paint brushes. The 1st gallon was pure chlorine. The 2nd settled out to almost 1/2 gallon chlorine, and the rest was pure gas. We took the fuel filter off, cleaned the carb then and blew out the lines with an air compressor. We threaded a self tapping bolt into the hole, with some 2 part epoxy, made to stand up to gas, let it set for half an hour and put 5 gallons of gas in. It started up and ran smooth all day. Then I bought some dry gas and Slick 50 engine treatment and put those in and ran it out of gas, just driving-after work last night. I only put 5 gallons back in, just in case a problem comes up and more Slick 50 and some boat motor gas mix oil.
None of the chlorine ever left the tank-it didn't get to the fuel pump or engine, so I am hoping I will be ok?
I often use gas cans to pick up extra chlorine-but I cut the nozzle off and seal it shut. This one I used on the spot and planned to cut it off later and forgot-it's cut off now!
Thanks for all the advice.
Chuck


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You very well have just dodged a bullet, or rather a BOMB. Here's an excerpt from a book on chemical reactions.BTW your pump is in the tank,so it did get exposed to the chlorine.


  1. Function

    • Most modern vehicles have relatively large gas tanks. These tanks are attached to fuel injection systems that force pressurized streams of fuel into the engine, creating the combustion reaction that makes the car move. There are many fuel additives on the market today that contain cleaners, whose purpose is to break down the sediment and dirt that may get transferred into the fuel line with the gas. This sediment can come from outside the tank, like when you pump gas into the fuel reservoir, but most often it comes from the slow wearing out of the gas tank lining (don't worry, this process could take several decades).
      Now, while bleach is an effective cleaner, it is not wise to pour bleach into your gas tank. Bleach is a corrosive chemical that can definitely break down the sediment deposits in the fuel line. However, the chemical nature and corrosive effect of chlorine bleach is so powerful that the reaction would almost certainly guarantee a huge car repair bill.
    Chemical Reaction

    • If bleach is poured into a gas tank, presumably with gas in it, the bleach itself will not harm the car. However, the chemical reaction between the chlorine in the bleach and the gasoline in the tank will definitely create havoc with your vehicle's fuel system and motor. The chlorine will react with the organic compounds from which gasoline is formed (remember, gas is refined oil and oil is an organic compound), creating an abnormal amount of rapid oxidation (rust). This reaction would, in effect, break down the metal in the gas tank dozens of years faster than normal. In fact, the adverse affects would become painfully obvious within two to four days.
    Effects

    • If this reaction takes place and the car is not driven, repairing the damage may only involve the replacement of the damaged fuel tank and flushing the fuel system. However, if the car is driven, a mixture of bleach and fuel will be distributed throughout the fuel system, corroding all metal, rubber and plastic it comes into contact with. In addition, a high volume of rust sediment will be forced through the fuel injectors and into the engine. In the best cases, the fuel injectors will clog and no gas will get through to the engine. In the worst cases, some bleach-filled gasoline will enter the engine and affect enough of the engine to seize up the engine block, rendering it useless.
    Penalties
    • Was this trip necessary?
      If someone is entertaining the idea of pouring bleach into another person's gas tank as a prank or an act of revenge, there are a few things to consider first. While extremely dangerous to the vehicle, the chemical reaction can also create enough oxidation (depending on the volume of gasoline and the amount of chlorine beach) to cause the gasoline to combust or explode. The chances of combustion are small, but they do exist. Also, if you are caught, depending on the jurisdiction, you could be charged with criminal mischief. Misdemeanors can carry fines and probation, and class "A" felonies of this charge can carry up to 18 months in jail, as well as fines and penalties.


Read more: Effects of Bleach in a Gas Tank | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/...k.html#ixzz1uNuwYMx7


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May 9, 2012, 11:43 AM

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jacked it to an angle-so all the chlorine would be on one bottom corner, let it set a while, drilled a hole in that lower corner and caught what came out.


This guy gets smarter every time he talks.............................(sarcasm if you couldn't tell}




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May 9, 2012, 12:09 PM

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I've never seen a gas tank patch job hold up for any length of time. He will eventually have to put in a replacement tank & pump. I keep haveing visions of the DIE HARD movie with the airplane leaving trail of fuel with the flames following. Pirate


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5282jt
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May 9, 2012, 8:49 PM

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Thank you for the well researched information!
I did the best I could with it and It is running nice a smooth after putting another 117 miles on it today. I hope the problem is solved.
I talked with 2 Chevy dealer mechanics and they thought my procedure was a good solution to the problem and foresee no further problems. They did say to watch for a "check engine" light, as the catalist could cause the sensor to set off the light. Thanks!

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You very well have just dodged a bullet, or rather a BOMB. Here's an excerpt from a book on chemical reactions.BTW your pump is in the tank,so it did get exposed to the chlorine.


  1. Function

    • Most modern vehicles have relatively large gas tanks. These tanks are attached to fuel injection systems that force pressurized streams of fuel into the engine, creating the combustion reaction that makes the car move. There are many fuel additives on the market today that contain cleaners, whose purpose is to break down the sediment and dirt that may get transferred into the fuel line with the gas. This sediment can come from outside the tank, like when you pump gas into the fuel reservoir, but most often it comes from the slow wearing out of the gas tank lining (don't worry, this process could take several decades).
      Now, while bleach is an effective cleaner, it is not wise to pour bleach into your gas tank. Bleach is a corrosive chemical that can definitely break down the sediment deposits in the fuel line. However, the chemical nature and corrosive effect of chlorine bleach is so powerful that the reaction would almost certainly guarantee a huge car repair bill.
    Chemical Reaction

    • If bleach is poured into a gas tank, presumably with gas in it, the bleach itself will not harm the car. However, the chemical reaction between the chlorine in the bleach and the gasoline in the tank will definitely create havoc with your vehicle's fuel system and motor. The chlorine will react with the organic compounds from which gasoline is formed (remember, gas is refined oil and oil is an organic compound), creating an abnormal amount of rapid oxidation (rust). This reaction would, in effect, break down the metal in the gas tank dozens of years faster than normal. In fact, the adverse affects would become painfully obvious within two to four days.
    Effects

    • If this reaction takes place and the car is not driven, repairing the damage may only involve the replacement of the damaged fuel tank and flushing the fuel system. However, if the car is driven, a mixture of bleach and fuel will be distributed throughout the fuel system, corroding all metal, rubber and plastic it comes into contact with. In addition, a high volume of rust sediment will be forced through the fuel injectors and into the engine. In the best cases, the fuel injectors will clog and no gas will get through to the engine. In the worst cases, some bleach-filled gasoline will enter the engine and affect enough of the engine to seize up the engine block, rendering it useless.
    Penalties
    • Was this trip necessary?
      If someone is entertaining the idea of pouring bleach into another person's gas tank as a prank or an act of revenge, there are a few things to consider first. While extremely dangerous to the vehicle, the chemical reaction can also create enough oxidation (depending on the volume of gasoline and the amount of chlorine beach) to cause the gasoline to combust or explode. The chances of combustion are small, but they do exist. Also, if you are caught, depending on the jurisdiction, you could be charged with criminal mischief. Misdemeanors can carry fines and probation, and class "A" felonies of this charge can carry up to 18 months in jail, as well as fines and penalties.


Read more: Effects of Bleach in a Gas Tank | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/...k.html#ixzz1uNuwYMx7

Chuck


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Glad to be part of the help . lets hope for the best.


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Your truck is a 95 and not likely to set off a light if the cat fails. I think the cat is going to fail because you put 2 stroke oil in your gas. This isn't a carbeurated truck. GM did away with carbs in 1986. You have throttle body injection. I know this because not only am I in the trade but I also drive a 95 Suburban. When you dump 2 stroke oil in this is doesn't burn clean. I'm sure you were looking at it as upper cylinder lube, which might almost help if it was 30 years ago. That oil gets half burned and clogs up a very expensive cat causing this to not have enough power to get out of its own way and get a couple gallons per mile(not a typo). I hope you have dodged a bullet on damage as you already cheated death when you drilled a hole in your tank. I'm guessing you used an electric drill instead of an air drill. Turn off the lights in a room and run one of those sometime. Nice light show on many of them. Its what Darwin Awards are made of. I'd start shopping now for a new tank, fuel pump and sending unit. As you said, you're scheduled way out and can't afford to lose a day on the job. There are plastic jugs for chemicals available commercially anywhere these chemicals are sold. Go to a farm store or pesticide retailer that sells to farmers and you will find them. As you already know now, gas cans are a bad place to put anything that isn't gasoline in.


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Your truck is a 95 and not likely to set off a light if the cat fails. I think the cat is going to fail because you put 2 stroke oil in your gas. This isn't a carbeurated truck. GM did away with carbs in 1986. You have throttle body injection. I know this because not only am I in the trade but I also drive a 95 Suburban. When you dump 2 stroke oil in this is doesn't burn clean. I'm sure you were looking at it as upper cylinder lube, which might almost help if it was 30 years ago. That oil gets half burned and clogs up a very expensive cat causing this to not have enough power to get out of its own way and get a couple gallons per mile(not a typo). I hope you have dodged a bullet on damage as you already cheated death when you drilled a hole in your tank. I'm guessing you used an electric drill instead of an air drill. Turn off the lights in a room and run one of those sometime. Nice light show on many of them. Its what Darwin Awards are made of. I'd start shopping now for a new tank, fuel pump and sending unit. As you said, you're scheduled way out and can't afford to lose a day on the job. There are plastic jugs for chemicals available commercially anywhere these chemicals are sold. Go to a farm store or pesticide retailer that sells to farmers and you will find them. As you already know now, gas cans are a bad place to put anything that isn't gasoline in.

Chuck


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