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Carconfused
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Sep 12, 2012, 6:05 AM
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Fuel/Brake Line Replaced - Brake pedal now hissing
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2000 Honda Accord EX, 2.3L 4-cy, 120,000 miles
My 2000 Honda Accord brake line rusted and leaked out all my brake fluid. I took it to a shop and they said I needed to replace all the brake lines and fuel lines (since they are right next to each other). I was told it would cost $700.
When I went to pick up the car, they said everything was working fine except that my rubber connector fuel line was leaking and needed to be replaced. I said my car was never leaking gas before I brought it to them, so obviously it was something they did while working on it, but they said they did not touch that area and maybe it was caused by the pressure of the new lines. They told me the new rubber fuel line would cost $70, but he would not charge me labor.
I went to pick up the car yesterday and this is what the bill said was replaced:
Fuel Hose at Fuel Rail to High Pres Line - $74.90
Return Line BD - $103.00
Evap Line BD - $138.82 (Note: I replaced my Evap system less than a year ago)
Pressure Line BD - $128.53
Brake lines from frnt to rear hoses w/ nuts - $46.60
Labor to install/bleed system - $297.50
I drove my car off the lot and the brake pedal felt very weak, like there was not a lot of pressure it in. You nearly had to put your foot to floor to stop the car. When the car is stopped, there is a hissing noise, like air is leaking out, coming from the brake pedal itself inside the car. I immediatley brought the car back, but the shop was closed and only the counter clerk was still there, so he said the mechanic would look at it today.
I did some research online and found out that it could be a bad bleed job, loose vaccum hoses, or the brake booster or brake master cylinder. Online it says if the brakes are soft and sinking, it is the master cylinder (which is what is happening), if the brakes are hard to push down, it is the brake booster. Obviously, I feel this place is trying to screw me now and has broken not only fuel hose which cause my $70, but that they will come back and say the brake booster needs to be replaced. Is this something they can damage during a brake/fuel line repair? How much should I expect to pay for brake booster? Should I just take my car somewhere else, or does this all seem legit?
(This post was edited by Carconfused on Sep 12, 2012, 8:24 AM)
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Tom Greenleaf
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Sep 12, 2012, 8:18 AM
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Re: Fuel/Brake Line Replaced - Brake pedal now hissing
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Took the hyperlink out to a Honda site - not allowed.
Pretty much this seems like quite a rust bucket with all that. Hard to read thru your one sentence run on like that. The sinking brake pedal would be indicative of a bad master cylinder as it probably travelled lower in bore than it has in a long while and messed up the seals.
The hissing could be vacuum booster involved but so much seems to have been done perhaps a nearby vacuum something to anything done. A very bad leak in or to vacuum booster would likely cause poor power assist or none and possible for engine to run poorly especially at idle.
IDK - If the shop + techs found this much wrong to begin with I think you should have been told of the possible problems that can come from all that line and hose work, bleeding system and so on.
There are lot of parts all thru a car that can fail just from being touched to do something else and rust/corrosion is simply a problem from the start when apparently that bad,
T
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Hammer Time
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Sep 12, 2012, 9:39 AM
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Nobody is trying to rip you off. What happened here makes complete sense. The only mistake these people are making is not selling you all the rusted out lines in the first place and not rechecking all their work and giving you back a car with faulty brakes. Their work quality may be lacking but the prices and repairs are what would be expected. You're driving a rust bucket.
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Tom Greenleaf
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Sep 12, 2012, 10:03 AM
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Right HT - I should have stressed that you DO NOT give a car back to a customer with obvious troubles like that. Some shops don't like to waste a few minutes to test drive after work completed. Not worried about the prices - no or poor braking is full blown dangerous!
T
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