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Versastyles
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Sep 30, 2013, 3:37 AM

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Yesterday I was checking all my fluids. I saw the water was a bit low so I added some. I started the car an made sure it was full. I replaced the cap an when I went to move the car it died out. When I tryed to start it again all I got once ONE click an then nothing. I thought maybe the battery was dead but I had just got a brand new one 2 days b4 . I tryed to give it a jump but no chance. I tryed the old " ssmack the starter with a hammer" thing an nothing.

Now I just got this car as my last cars computer went one me an I'm really hoping I can get some ideas on what to check as I cant lose yet another car...
thanks for any help you can give

bradley


98 serbing jxi 2.5

oil is good
battery is good.


Tom Greenleaf
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Sep 30, 2013, 4:38 AM

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You meant water for the cooling system - right? Use coolant next time not plain water if you did.

You said you get one click then nothing and if really NOTHING as in no lighting, or anything it sounds like your battery connections are toast or even the new battery is NG or it isn't charging at all and that was it. New or not have it tested and clean up the connections for a beginning,

T



Hammer Time
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Sep 30, 2013, 4:40 AM

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Try turning the engine over by hand with a socket on the crankshaft bolt to make sure the engine isn't locked.

Why was the battery replaced?



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Versastyles
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Sep 30, 2013, 4:54 AM

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i tryed moving the motor by hand and could not. And to update just now it started to sound like the starter is trniing but the motor is not.
The battery was replaced bcus it was old an not holding a charge well.


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Sep 30, 2013, 5:00 AM

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Eh - probably couldn't turn most by hand whatever you way you tried. Do all lights go out and things like clock reset or radio settings lost when it does this? That targets a connection issue. You really don't know yet it battery is good or charged or the engine can turn OR if the starter is NG.

In fact you still need to find out what could possibly cause it to need "water" as you said as if you meant cooling system it shouldn't so that's something to find and fix but it needs to run first to diagnose more,

T



Versastyles
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Sep 30, 2013, 5:06 AM

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no the lights do not go out when i try to start it. I even tryed putting on a jumper pack that is fully charged but same thing. The ticking that I hear is NOT the same sound it makes when it has a dead battery. . I'm at a lose. I'm starting to fear the motor is jammed up. But tomorrow when I dont have to work I think I am going to pul out the starter an bench test it. Unless some one has other ideas.


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Sep 30, 2013, 5:13 AM

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You need to go back to the "engine wouldn't turn" part. If you truly can't turn the enbine by hand, then you have a serious issue. Remove all the spark plugs and see if it spins then, noticing if any coolant spits out of any of the cylinders.



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Versastyles
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Sep 30, 2013, 5:15 AM

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ok.


Tom Greenleaf
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Sep 30, 2013, 5:18 AM

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Motor could be the issue itself. Jumper pack may not have had a good connection? Turning by crank bolt would be faster but if you can get the starter testes OUT of car you should be able to see the flywheel gears or if drive is cock-eyed for whatever reason that would be the problem up front. Then you should still turn engine by crank bolt and look at every tooth of flywheel if it turns.

If this engine doesn't turn that way you are in trouble with something but try things and rule things out so we don't discuss every possible anything first,

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Hammer Time
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Sep 30, 2013, 5:52 AM

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No, pull the plugs.

The OP just stated he was low on coolant and this could be pointing to a hydro-locked engine and continuing to force the issue will just do more damage.



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Sep 30, 2013, 5:57 AM

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Ya - was thinking that too for "water" loss. IDK, may not have the size socket for crank bolt at hand but if hydro locked it should turn a little at least the other way. Would still be great to let the coolant out of a cylinder if so then know there's a project for this,

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Versastyles
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Oct 1, 2013, 3:10 AM

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i'm gpong to pull the starter an see if its just the starter first. if it passes a bench test then i'll pull the plugs an test for that.


Hammer Time
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Oct 1, 2013, 3:22 AM

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That will likely just be a big waste of time. What a starter does on a bench and what it's capable of doing in the car are completely different.
At least see if you can move the engine at all by hand first.



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Versastyles
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Oct 1, 2013, 2:35 PM

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I pulled the starter an bench tested it , Its fine but the gears look like they have been grinding badly. I pulled all the plugs an tryed to trun the moton over with a wrench an a 30 inch bar and bent the bar.fairly sure no water in the cylnders tho . The fly whell looked fine from the bit I could see. I'm guessing pull the oil pan an heads next?


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Oct 1, 2013, 2:43 PM

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If that engine wouldn't turn either way, plugs out I think you should look for another whole engine by what you just said. Not likely the heads or valve anything but lower end trashed.

Can you borrow or perhaps have a scope to just look inside plug holes? I think you'll find it's game over,

T



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Oct 1, 2013, 2:49 PM

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Yep, that motor is toast.



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Versastyles
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Oct 1, 2013, 3:55 PM

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yea I tryed tryed to move it at the fly wheel. I was lifting the car off the jack an not bugging it.
crazy how with no warning what so ever and at idle it could weld like this.

well I'm screwed... Thanks for trying guys.


Tom Greenleaf
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Oct 1, 2013, 4:30 PM

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Ya - unless something was wrong with the way you did that, that's real damning for the engine. Don't waste time on that one if the car is otherwise fine hunt down the best salvage place for whole, exact drop in engines if keeping this car.

Others may disagree but I just don't care for redone lower ends or block as you'd call it. Been a while but close by could get whole engines with a sheet of how it compressed, mileage of donor and some real history and 100% worked out fine. Some on crates, some just in from a wreck that was cool and could see the car in general for clues of how well it was cared for or not and why it was scrapped.

No clue on prices for every place but used to be quite reasonable here.

Sorry for the bad news but think you can quit wasting time on that motor or any $$ on it now,

T



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Oct 1, 2013, 5:19 PM

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Take the belts off and see if you can rotate the crank.





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(This post was edited by Discretesignals on Oct 1, 2013, 5:19 PM)






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