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95 Ford Escort won't start
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ixavion
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Jan 27, 2013, 12:48 PM
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I have a 95 Ford Escort, 1.9 L, base model. I drove it home from work and stopped at the mail box. It did not start back up, so I popped the clutch and started it to get it home. Battery is fine, starter and solenoid were bench tested, there is no voltage loss from the battery to the starter, Eliminated the clutch switch, tried jumping the starter from the battery, just get a click and a little wine from the solenoid. I am lost as to what the issue might be. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Sidom
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Jan 27, 2013, 3:03 PM
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Can you turn the engine over by hand?
How are you measuring the voltage drop between the battery & starter?
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ixavion
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Jan 27, 2013, 5:27 PM
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The only thing I can imagine is that you are trying to find out if the engine is locked up, by trying to turn over the engine manually. However, as stated in the original post, I can pop the clutch and start the car, which means the engine is not locked up.
As for the voltage, I ran a multimeter across the 2 polls of the battery, to get an actually voltage. Then I ran the multimeter between the battery and the starter solenoid, to check to see if there was any loss in the cable. I checked both sides. I also used the multimeter to make sure that there was not more that a .5 volt drop in the system, when trying to start the engine. That was done using the connector that goes to the ignition, on the solenoid.
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Jan 27, 2013, 5:40 PM
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Well it looks like you've eliminated a voltage drop...When you said "both sides", I took that as checking for a drop on the ground side as well......Going between the starter case and battery neg post.
It sounds like you have a pretty good handle on the electrical system.....As long as you have 12v going to the starter and good ground the starter should crank.... You do what you did....go down and put 12v to the trigger terminal on the starter..If it cranks normal, then the problem is in the trigger circuit, if it doesn't, like yours is doing...Then it's either a bad battery, cables or connections or a starter....
The problem with bench testing a starter is, this isn't an acurate test.....It will only tell you if you have a totally dead starter, if you have a bad starter that is shorting and drawing too many amps, it will pass a bench test because there is no load on it, it is just freewheeling and doesn't have to spin over an engine with compression.
What you can do is double check your voltage drops, on both sides and if there isn't any big drops and you can't get it to crank by jumping 12v to the trigger terminal then it sounds like you have a bad starter.
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ixavion
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Jan 27, 2013, 11:03 PM
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I went to u pull and pay and picked up a starter out of a junk car. I realize that it is just a gamble in this situation, but $20 is far less than $130 for a part. After installing that starter, I find that I still have the same issue.
Do you by chance know if the clutch switch is an open or close operation?
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Hammer Time
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Jan 28, 2013, 4:27 AM
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The clutch switch is a normally open switch that closes when the pedal is depressed and that completes the trigger circuit from the ignition switch to the starter via the underhood fuse box.
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Tom Greenleaf
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Jan 28, 2013, 12:01 PM
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Did you say in top post you hear a "whine" from starter? That is bad battery or connections almost always. Tests done on these things are marginal at best.
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ixavion
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Jan 29, 2013, 4:56 PM
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All of the connections appear to be good and the battery is reading 12.53 V.
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Jan 29, 2013, 8:04 PM
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I can't hear or see your problem but from what you are posting, it really sounds like you have a voltage drop some where. The ground side is just as important as the power side.....If you aren't familar with voltage drop testing just do a quick google search.....
You would be surprised at how many times, simples problems can turn into major ones by overlooking the basics....I saw a tech waste a ton of time once due to replacing a bad battery with a new one and still having the same problem. When he finally load tested the new battery, he found out he had a bad brand new battery off the shelf. He eliminated it off the list because.....it was "new"
On this one, I would start from scratch, pull the battery, get it charged & tested, clean the connections and the break out your voltmeter & drop test the whole circuit.....
If you are getting a full 12v to the trigger, can't jump the start & the engine isn't froze........You have a power issue......somewhere....
and....NO!!!! that wasn't me I was talking about.... ... I'll admitt I've installed a bad one off the shelf without loading before...but any problems & that's one the 1st things I look at......
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