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troubledohc
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Sep 28, 2011, 11:56 AM

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Besides from a lawn mower i don't mess with carburators to often. my grand pop bought this car in 65 he died in 1990. last time the car ran and was taged was in 96 . i got the car towed to me for my birthday .i slaped a battery in her tried to crank it (prolly a bad idea ) but i know im not getting gas .i can't find any information on this car where is the fuel pump located ? where is the filter located ? should the fuel pump buzz ? im going to throw fresh oil in her soon, but i need some kind of manual or a guru to help me out a bit. the car is a 65 pontiac starchief 389 2 jet rodchester carburator everything is original and im trying to avoid aftermarket (trying)


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Sep 28, 2011, 12:38 PM

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The fuel pump is mechanical and on the engine. You will likely have to replace the fuel lines from the tank as they get porous and the fuel pump will suck air. You may also have serious issues inside the fuel tank. You will have to remove it to find out.



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troubledohc
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Sep 28, 2011, 7:13 PM

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yikes i thought gas would keep everything clean .. what exactly is bad gas ? is it gas with moister ? or does it get gel like ? i was thinking seafoam but worried about seals ..

i wasn't getting anykind of gas going in the carburtator, so i dumped some fresh gas in the carburator seems like i was on the right track (wanted to fire up instead of just cranking over ).

tested for spark im getting spark from the distributor .is there like a .pdf or a manual anyone can pull for me ? i need some kind of mechanical map so i kno my way around this thing lol. and i can't find the fuel pump (unless it's under the car or in the tank)

and im not sure if it helps but i think they ran out the gas from the 90s it was stored in a garage sometimes under a tarp ..

im used to f/i 4 cylinders (it tells me what is wrong instead of goose hunting ) i need to just get it to start for now befor the restore (will be minor restore) and definitly having a fuel issue


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Sep 28, 2011, 7:18 PM

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The car hasn't run in 16 years. You can expect some serious deterioration to the fuel system



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Sep 28, 2011, 9:16 PM

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The price of GURU's has gone out of sight , so i found a source for manuals ....Pontiac Repair Manuals | Haynes, Chilton | The Motor Bookstore

I also ran across a freebee wiring diagram.....Pontiac wiring 1957-1965


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Sep 29, 2011, 4:51 AM

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You probably going to have to put a set of valve springs in it and make sure the valves aren't stuck in their guides.





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troubledohc
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Sep 29, 2011, 10:00 AM

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valves move good like i said it's in decent shape.. just bin sitting.. for the gas tank and fuel lines i should really look at.. it i guess i'll soak the carburator .new vaccumme lines, fuel pump,fuel filter,belts, what else u guys think ?


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Sep 29, 2011, 10:04 AM

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Soak the carburetor???????



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Sep 29, 2011, 6:44 PM

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"Soak the carb" You and the other "youngsters" havent heard of this procedure . You strip a carb down,removing all gaskets and soft parts. It is then placed in a tank of concentrated carb cleaner , about a hour it comes out spic and span . reassemble with new parts. And its ready to go.


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Sep 29, 2011, 7:06 PM

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Yeah, along with complete adjustment and setup during reassembly.



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Sep 29, 2011, 9:09 PM

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How hard could it be . you've seen one briggs&stratton ................Course this is a car so ya got to deal with tps and mixture control solenoid .Crazy


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ya got to deal with tps and mixture control solenoid .


That wasn't more than a wet dream in '65



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All it needs after you get it running is a sail. I wonder how many kids were conceived in the back of that car?









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Tps ,mixture control , all mentioned in jest. Cutting edge technology in '65 was the 8 track and 16 channel CB. IF you were a wiz kid you had a linear amp and could skip all the way to NY.


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IF you were a wiz kid you had a linear amp and could skip all the way to NY.


Lived in NE and skipped to the carolinas and occasionally CA.

115 ft tower with Moonraker 4 beam on rotary and 20w kicker.



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Sep 30, 2011, 9:27 AM

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HT , your a CB'er .Nice base unit .We ,my dad and I had a moonbraker 8 . The main problem with such a system was its size ,its huge . And the fact it was directional which a 40ft crank up tower and a rotory head solved both problems . We also ran a BIG STICK I think it was about 10-15 ft.


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Sep 30, 2011, 9:43 AM

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Yes, I had a Big Stick on top of the beam also.



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Sep 30, 2011, 10:00 AM

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Browning Golden Eagle here.


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Cellphones Ha . we're talking real communications here.


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Sep 30, 2011, 6:33 PM

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How did this thread go from a Poncho sitting around in some barn somewhere to rednecks on CB radios? For some reason I can picture a 120 ft radio tower sitting on top of HT's house.

Redneck hedge trimmer...lol







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Sep 30, 2011, 6:47 PM

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Is that guy in the picture cutting the hedge? Now, that's imagination!


Yes, and the best part is we stood it up by hand all in one piece. The antenna itself was 40 feet across. We had about 10 guys and some guy wire and walked it upright from the roof of my house and set it into it's base. When I think about it now, we were crazy. There were poles and electric wires in front of my house.



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