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2003 Hyundai Tiburon not starting


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alexayers08
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May 12, 2014, 7:31 PM

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The car has been running great past 3 years regular maintenance done every 3-5 months, this past winter when i was parking outside there were some rough starts (battery died sometimes) then once it was parked in the garage everything was fine again until last week while my room mate was driving the motor just quit no sputter no indication anything was going to happen (he says)
We have been working on testing many things. I can hear the fuel pump working, battery is fine(tried jumping and charger) we replaced plugs and the crank shaft positioning sensor. (was shattered inside) getting a good spark however it will not start even with starter fluid. Ive also rented the obt2 tool from autozone but that does not help since there seems to be a ground short(? best internet result) so i cannot even get the thing to turn on in the car.(works fine in the borrowed jeep)
Ive read some other posts on coil pack needed replaced to make the spark stronger or maybe the timing belt being off a little bit but the number of days we've worked on it already i may do 1 or 2 more things before going to a shop.

After posting i read the sticky... I didnt do all of those tests but i believe the guys i had helping me (they having much more experience than i do) checked these before assuming the sensor except maybe the compression/pressure test. Seems they are lost on the project and im essentially on my own now.


(This post was edited by alexayers08 on May 12, 2014, 7:45 PM)


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May 12, 2014, 10:33 PM

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The sticky is a "process of elimination" that will lead to the problem. It sounds like you first need to have your battery tested and replaced if necessary.



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alexayers08
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May 13, 2014, 5:05 AM

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how is that possible when a jump will not start it? If you're jumping a car doesnt it run on the other cars battery/alternator?


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May 13, 2014, 5:14 AM

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A no start is BASICS.
you want step by step -
1) when you turn key to start- what is happening? it cranks spins over or NOTHING happens ?
2) Is or was the Ck Eng light on ?
3) is there a remote start?
4) recent history- repairs maintenance - accidents- etc.


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May 13, 2014, 5:39 AM

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If you're jumping a car doesnt it run on the other cars battery/alternator?


No, it's running through your battery so if your battery has a bad cell or short, it will pull down the donor car. Don't assume anything. Test it and then you can move on.



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alexayers08
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May 13, 2014, 5:49 AM

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Ill be taking the battery with me when i take the tool back to autozone to have them test it just trying to get as much done today on forums then going to the store


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A no start is BASICS.
you want step by step -
1) when you turn key to start- what is happening? it cranks spins over or NOTHING happens ?
2) Is or was the Ck Eng light on ?
3) is there a remote start?
4) recent history- repairs maintenance - accidents- etc.


when turning on, can hear fuel pump cranks and no firing. ck engine light is on but so are all the other ones. No remote start but there is a tracking device the dealer had to put in it. Only recent repair in 3 years i had overheating problems which still persist under 1000 rpm but i replaced the thermo and upper radiator hose(leak), usual a/c issues that i charge every other year and this past summer i took it to an oil place and had the works done, checked and changed every fluid in the car


alexayers08
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May 13, 2014, 9:15 AM

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just got back from the battery test said it was good and 100% charged


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May 13, 2014, 11:25 AM

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Time to perform all the tests in the sticky to determine what function/s have dropped out.



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alexayers08
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May 14, 2014, 2:43 PM

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Guys are back over doing some work, 5lbs pressure on the fuel (can you test this on a car that wont start? all guides ive read say to let it run or start it up etc) and we tested 1 spark plug at 90psi then 60 then 90


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May 14, 2014, 2:53 PM

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Check that fuel pressure again while cranking. It can't run with that pressure.



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alexayers08
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May 14, 2014, 3:07 PM

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the fuel test is connected to the return line, do we just disconnect the pressured one to test that? mechanics here are confused on the import

btw we did test while cranking


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May 14, 2014, 3:09 PM

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No, that won't work. You have to "T" into the feed line. You will likely need some special adapters for the gauge. They make some that can tap into the fuel filter.



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alexayers08
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May 14, 2014, 3:14 PM

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while they look for the fuel filter he was suggesting its the ignition module because he just fixed this on his jeep the other day, the spark plugs are firing orange not blue


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May 14, 2014, 10:23 PM

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If you don't perform the testing, you will never know.



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alexayers08
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May 15, 2014, 4:52 AM

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he was pretty unwilling to try the fuel pressure test (because of the lack of knowing where to port into it) and is having someone more experienced come over and check it out, we have 4 people here calling others (dads grandpas etc) and also searching the internet its quite the mess since everyone has different ideas


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May 15, 2014, 5:10 AM

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You wouldn't have this problem if you just brought it to a professional for diagnosis.



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alexayers08
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May 15, 2014, 5:17 AM

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all the bills always come at the same time in life


alexayers08
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May 27, 2014, 1:14 PM

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timing belt was shredded, crankshaft gear chipped somehow... hopefully nothing else was damaged


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May 27, 2014, 1:33 PM

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That's not good news. This is an interference engine meaning there is usually bent valves when a timing belt lets go. This is why you have to change these things when recommended.



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alexayers08
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May 28, 2014, 3:06 AM

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so it probably will not start unless i got lucky and the valves didnt bend... chances slim to none since both vehicles and my fridge broke at the same time

I would have replaced it had i known, only driven it 30k miles and with that gear being chipped it would have tore up a new belt, wonder what made it chip like that


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May 30, 2014, 5:07 AM

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Question closed.........

Poster seems to have the opinion we are no help anyway.

http://autoforums.carjunky.com/...t=search_engine#last

If he had followed the "useless" tests in the sticky in the first place he would have know his timing belt was bad a long time ago



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May 30, 2014, 5:45 AM

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You gave us the symptoms of your problem and expect us to tell you exactly what is wrong with it without any test results that we asks for? Then you go and slam people who are giving up time in their lives to help you?

We can't read minds and we can't heal your car by putting our hands on the hood. For us to help you, you have to help us.





Since we volunteer our time and knowledge, we ask for you to please follow up when a problem is resolved.

(This post was edited by Discretesignals on May 30, 2014, 5:49 AM)






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