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1994 mx6 blinker and brake lights not working
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slim696901
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Nov 3, 2012, 2:34 PM
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hello all im hopeing someone here can help me out i have a 1994 mazda mx6 and the blinker lights are not working the green arrows on the dash don't light up when they are turned on as well as all four outside the car dont come on aslo the brake lights do not work i have checked all fuses more then once and also changed out the switch behind the steering wheel and changed the gray relay under the dash and still nothing works i dont know where to look/ test / check next can anyone help plz
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nickwarner
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Nov 3, 2012, 5:46 PM
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are you checking with a test light, a multimeter or just pulling it out and looking at it?
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slim696901
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Nov 3, 2012, 8:13 PM
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i used a test light
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slim696901
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Nov 4, 2012, 6:55 AM
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so it is the fuse it is putting out power but not as much as needed to make the lights work seems the fuse is siting in the block lose any ideas on how to fix it ?
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nickwarner
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Nov 4, 2012, 7:04 AM
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If the fuse is loose in the block you would need to get those wires that go to it fixed. You would need a terminal release tool to get them out and put new ends on them, or you could cut them out and solder in an inline fuse holder which will still give you a fuse protected circuit.
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Nov 4, 2012, 1:57 PM
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i switched out the hole fuse box lights all work now but i cant get it started now if i spray quick start in it it will start right up right away it does not seem to be getting gas and i can not hear the pump turn on when i turn over the key i can hear a double click from one of the relays under the hood i changed then all with the ones out of my parts car but still the same thing both cars did run the other day
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Nov 4, 2012, 3:26 PM
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Must have the wrong blinker fluid............ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ We offer help in answering questions, clarifying things or giving advice but we are not a substitute for an on-site inspection by a professional.
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Nov 4, 2012, 6:22 PM
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What's the matter? .......................... You think I'm wrong? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ We offer help in answering questions, clarifying things or giving advice but we are not a substitute for an on-site inspection by a professional.
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slim696901
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Nov 4, 2012, 6:32 PM
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lol that is funny but does not have anything to do with the car not starting
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Nov 4, 2012, 7:04 PM
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Wow...I didn't know that blinker fluid was flammable. Since we volunteer our time and knowledge, we ask for you to please follow up when a problem is resolved.
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Nov 4, 2012, 7:11 PM
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i did not know there was such a thing anyways i got the car started turns out the relay has to + and to grounds one of the grounds is not working i jumped a ground wire from the ground on the relay to the batt the pump came on and the car started right up
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Nov 4, 2012, 7:16 PM
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Which engine do you have? Since we volunteer our time and knowledge, we ask for you to please follow up when a problem is resolved.
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Nov 4, 2012, 7:51 PM
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You certainly didn't fix anything and you cannot leave that wire grounded or you will have a dead battery and burned out fuel pump. You just over rode the computer which doesn't tell you much of anything. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ We offer help in answering questions, clarifying things or giving advice but we are not a substitute for an on-site inspection by a professional.
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Nov 4, 2012, 8:46 PM
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well it tells me the pump works and that there is a bad ground some where or am i wrong ??
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Nov 4, 2012, 9:10 PM
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Relays only have one ground, usually terminal 86. That controls the control side of the relay which actuates the load side. The PCM provides the ground when it sees the correct parameters that it either isn't seeing or now lacks the ability to control properly. You bypassed that and now the fuel pump runs constantly which will kill your battery and your pump. Need to troubleshoot what is missing in this circuit and get it back to stock wiring ASAP.
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Nov 4, 2012, 9:39 PM
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with the way i hooked it up the pump only runs when the key is switched start i did not leave it like that the relay has 4 prongs to have power and to do not if i put my volt meter on and jump to of them side by side i get 12v but when i jump the other to i donot get anything unless i ground out the one side so what your saying is theres 2+ 1- and what does the other one do ?
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Nov 5, 2012, 3:56 PM
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yes so it turns out the pump does not shut off so anyone know how to make the pump run with out jumping it ?
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Nov 5, 2012, 4:19 PM
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You're going to have to find out why the computer is not turning it on. Are you even checking it the right way? It only powers for 2 seconds when the key is turned on and resumes when cranking. The computer has to see a tach signal or it won't turn it on. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ We offer help in answering questions, clarifying things or giving advice but we are not a substitute for an on-site inspection by a professional.
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Nov 5, 2012, 5:43 PM
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im not sure what to check next i now know the the pump works and my relay is good
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Nov 5, 2012, 7:07 PM
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You'll have to test that wire back to the computer and find out if the computer is actually applying a ground to the wire.. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ We offer help in answering questions, clarifying things or giving advice but we are not a substitute for an on-site inspection by a professional.
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Nov 5, 2012, 10:01 PM
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I've justed skimmed this thread real quick so have probably missed something but I'm gonna add my 2 cents here real quick..... The car started until you messed with the fuse box........go back & triple check all the wiring you worked on...... If that doesn't work then use the diagram HT posted.......Start with the fuel pump relay....As you can see 2 terminals are going to have 12 volts & 2 will have a ground. As long as you have 12v on both terminals and can turn the pump on by jumping the fuel pump terminal then for some reason the PCM isn't grounding the relay and then you would need to start checking inputs.... You did catch HTs post about the PCM only powering the pump for 2 seconds with the key on.....right??? Meaning if you are doing this by yourself, by the time you get to where ever after turning the key on......there will be no power......even if the system was working perfectly....
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Nov 6, 2012, 4:19 PM
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No, it doesn't go to the fuse box. Lets back up here and get an engine size because there appears to be a difference of wire color in engine size, ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ We offer help in answering questions, clarifying things or giving advice but we are not a substitute for an on-site inspection by a professional.
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