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jawlessemu
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Dec 2, 2013, 12:30 PM

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cant set timing 1995 lebaron Sign In

im trying to set the timing on my 95 lebaron 3.0. when i lign up all my marks (camshafts, crankshaft0 and set the distributor to #1 it wont fire. When i set it to #2 it will fire but runs crappy. and missfires, cant get engine over 2500 rpm


Hammer Time
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Dec 2, 2013, 12:38 PM

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Re: cant set timing 1995 lebaron Sign In

If the timing marks are lined up this way, it should run. If it doesn't, you have other problems.





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jawlessemu
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Dec 2, 2013, 12:44 PM

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Re: cant set timing 1995 lebaron Sign In

yeah i set my timing just like that ive been using alldata. and thats the exact diagram i get. it just wont fire when i set distributor to #1 only when its at about #2. let me give a little background into what caused this problem. two weeks ago we went out of town on that saturday we drove the car to town. went back to our land a nd parked the car for the night. in the morning we went out and were going to go home biut the car wouldnt start right away. when it did it was missing real bad and i then found out there wasnt enough coolant i the car and it had frozen. luckily when we defrostted i there was no oil mixing with coolant and no coolant leak. did a compression test on the engine and it was god at 150# across all six cylinders. i then took apart the whole side of the engine to get to inspect the timing belt. i ligned up the marks on the cam but the crank was out about 6 teeth. so i replaced the belt and the water pump and know i cant get it to start when the distro is set on one only on two and i doesnt run very well.


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Dec 2, 2013, 1:10 PM

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Re: cant set timing 1995 lebaron Sign In

I have no earthly idea why you changed a timing belt for an overheating problem. You have at minimum a blown head gasket and possibly a cracked head or block.



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(This post was edited by Hammer Time on Dec 2, 2013, 1:11 PM)


jawlessemu
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Dec 2, 2013, 1:13 PM

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Re: cant set timing 1995 lebaron Sign In

well i changed the timing belt because it was skipped a couple of teeth and when i pulled it off and compared to a new one it was stretched. i alos assumed that the head gasket was not blown because i ran compression check with all plugs out and there was no loss of compression and they were all at 150 psi. im at a loss of what to do know. im not sure there must be something else. causing the engine to not run. so my question know is do you really think i could have a blown head gasket and/or cracked head with the compression i am receiving?


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Dec 2, 2013, 1:25 PM

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Re: cant set timing 1995 lebaron Sign In

Sure I do, more likely a cracked block. The timing belt didn't jump any teeth. It will come right off before it does that.



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jawlessemu
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Dec 2, 2013, 1:25 PM

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Re: cant set timing 1995 lebaron Sign In

is there a way to check to see if the block is cracked?


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Dec 2, 2013, 1:40 PM

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Re: cant set timing 1995 lebaron Sign In

Remove all the spark plugs and put the cooling system under pressure for 15 or 20 minutes and then spin the engine over and see if it spits any coolant out of any of the cylinders



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(This post was edited by Hammer Time on Dec 2, 2013, 1:43 PM)


jawlessemu
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Dec 2, 2013, 6:35 PM

Post #9 of 13 (2857 views)
Re: cant set timing 1995 lebaron Sign In

checked nothing no coolant. Is there a possibility the timing could still be off a tooth or two?


jawlessemu
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Dec 3, 2013, 5:22 PM

Post #10 of 13 (2842 views)
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i found out why it wouldnt fire on #1. i was setting to number one by the wire terminal not the conbtact on the inside wich happens to be about 90 degrees clockwise from #1Wire terminal.


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Dec 3, 2013, 9:00 PM

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That'll do it.............



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jawlessemu
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Dec 4, 2013, 1:57 PM

Post #12 of 13 (2828 views)
Re: cant set timing 1995 lebaron Sign In

i appreciate the help, and advice. hopefully someone else with a similar problem will read my post one day and it will help them.


Hammer Time
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Dec 4, 2013, 2:04 PM

Post #13 of 13 (2826 views)
Re: cant set timing 1995 lebaron Sign In

You still haven't resolved the original issue of the car running low on coolant and starting to misfire. You simply resolved your timing belt issue that it likely didn't need in the first place. Those original issues tend to indicate something more serious.



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