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joe32
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May 30, 2014, 9:28 AM

Post #1 of 15 (1589 views)
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 1990 bronco 2 2.9 v6, replaced distributor cap and rotor wired back up according to manual, now it wont start.


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May 30, 2014, 10:00 AM

Post #2 of 15 (1576 views)
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Then obviously you messed something up in the process. You need to go back and check everything you touched.



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May 30, 2014, 10:59 AM

Post #3 of 15 (1569 views)
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 dbl check work- is rotor spinning? seated correctly? spark at several plugs?

Being 15years old you may need to retime - did you mark #1 plug on old cap OR just replace wires according to diagram?
It is very possible the dist was moved replaced and the diagram reference for #1 is not really #1. Meaning #1 is not the same place as in picture.


joe32
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May 30, 2014, 11:27 AM

Post #4 of 15 (1567 views)
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This engine dist. is in back kind of under intake manifold hard to get at, so started to swap wire for wire but sense I have another engine in my garage same 2.9 I thought I had an exact reference.


joe32
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May 30, 2014, 11:34 AM

Post #5 of 15 (1565 views)
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I have for 3 evenings, I've read something about a sn out plug, think I found it but disconnecting it didnt help.
Think it has something to do with vac.


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May 30, 2014, 12:18 PM

Post #6 of 15 (1554 views)
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If it was running before you did your repair, you did something wrong or you have defective parts.

Do you have spark using a spark tester at the end of the plug wires?





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joe32
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May 31, 2014, 1:31 AM

Post #7 of 15 (1527 views)
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I'm pretty sure the parts are good, engine has been rebuilt, I established first cylinder and combustion side of compression. What would be next steps?


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May 31, 2014, 4:12 AM

Post #8 of 15 (1516 views)
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Was the engine running before you did your partial tune-up?

I am assuming you mean you located number 1 cylinder and it is on its compression stroke. If that is the case, the rotor in the distributor should be pointing at the number one plug wire king pin on the distributor cap. Verify all your wires are installed in the correct order as in the picture. Then see if it will start. If it doesn't, check for spark at one of the plug wires using a spark tester.




The SPOUT (spark out) plug is removed when you go to adjust the base timing using a timing light.





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(This post was edited by Discretesignals on May 31, 2014, 4:14 AM)


joe32
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May 31, 2014, 5:06 AM

Post #9 of 15 (1508 views)
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Yes it was running. It's been overhauled by the guy I bought it off of, if someone overhauls an engine and changes the order what might they change? If 1&4 2&5 3&6 which way would they most likely go?


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May 31, 2014, 5:14 AM

Post #10 of 15 (1504 views)
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You can't change the firing order of an engine. The way the engine's crankshaft and camshaft are machined dictates the engine's firing order. The firing order of that engine is 1,4,2,5,3,6.

The distributor has to be installed with the rotor pointing towards number 1 on the cap while the #1 piston is a top dead center on the compression stroke. The wires have to be connected as they are shown in the diagram. It won't run or run correctly if your wires or rotor isn't indexed correctly.

If it was running before you touched it, you have something installed incorrectly, you left something disconnected, or you have defective parts. Don't make it complicated.





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(This post was edited by Discretesignals on May 31, 2014, 5:20 AM)


joe32
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May 31, 2014, 5:28 AM

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I've wired it up right. When I've checked the compression and it's at the top of 1st cylinder the rotor pointing between 1 and 6. From front of engine 1 wire at noon wire 6 at ten rotor at eleven.


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May 31, 2014, 5:33 AM

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If you believe you have the wires and all that connected correctly and the engine still doesn't want to start, you need to follow the steps in this thread:

http://autoforums.carjunky.com/...LL_NOT_START_P75655/





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(This post was edited by Discretesignals on May 31, 2014, 5:33 AM)


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May 31, 2014, 5:34 AM

Post #13 of 15 (1486 views)
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Gotta be the other guy's fault......right?



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May 31, 2014, 7:05 AM

Post #14 of 15 (1480 views)
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Could be the other guy installed the distributor a tooth off and instead of putting it in the right way moved the wires instead.





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May 31, 2014, 7:40 AM

Post #15 of 15 (1478 views)
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Not according to what he just posted.



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