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97 chevy lumina 3.1 auto v6 loss of power misfire loud tapping noise
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ladagosta
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Mar 5, 2009, 2:26 PM
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Re: 97 chevy lumina 3.1 auto v6 loss of power misfire loud tapping noise
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well I am impressed the spark plugs took care of the loss of power and the missfire and the seafoam took care of the rest !!!
I have never used this product but I can and will say that I am impressed from all I have heard it stands up to what they say it will do.
The plugs were original and they had nothing left to them ..
I ran out of time to do an oil change and decided to just add the seafoam to the crank case and the fuel, just enough to condition them not the extra to flush and change the oil I told her to take it and run it for a few weeks adn then we will do a flush and oil change .
I did take a snap of the noise before and after if I can figure out how to upload them and where so that I can place a link to hear them people will be amazed at the difference...man what a difference..
<embed width="448" height="361" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" src="http://i262.photobucket.com/...onlyplus/31after.flv">
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<embed width="448" height="361" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" src="http://i262.photobucket.com/...nlyplus/31before.flv">
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(This post was edited by ladagosta on Mar 5, 2009, 3:28 PM)
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Tom Greenleaf
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Mar 5, 2009, 3:28 PM
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Sounds good so far except - I wouldn't leave SeaFoam in the crankcase for more than a run around the block and change out oil. Don't know how much you put in but it's strong and perhaps too strong such that a large chunk of sludge could move and block oil passages. Better to get close with any cleaning you can reach for valve/lifter type sticking and just let good and over frequent oil changing clean it up.
ATF (1 qt) can be used for solvent but only for a short time - minutes then out!
T
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ladagosta
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Mar 5, 2009, 3:30 PM
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Tom
on the seafoam container
it just says to add to crank case and fuel it does not say to remove it
as to how much I put in.. I used 1/2 a bottle or 8 oz. in the crank case. and 1/3 bottle in the fuel since she had 1/4 to1/2 tan of gas.
i did read the directions and it says nothing about removing the stuff once in the fuel and crank case. just to use as a conditioner... add to crank case and fuel
to clean lifter use through air intake.. 1/3 and remaining after you allow the 1/3 to circulate about 5 minutes..
PS:
I did not do the air intake process
(This post was edited by ladagosta on Mar 5, 2009, 3:35 PM)
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Tom Greenleaf
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Mar 5, 2009, 3:55 PM
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SeaFoam is kinda like stronger than lacquer thinner! I wouldn't dilute oil with it at all and IMO they are there to sell product and know you have a problem so what's the risk on their part? It disolved stuff gasoline won't and even leaky injectors can ruin oil fast. Short time or not at all in oil is my suggestion.
As far as into intakes they sell a foamy one called "Deep Creep" which is much less apt to cause hydraulic lock than a real liquid but I still like regular throttle body cleaner for that. Some in fuel is ok but be done with it. It's strong stuff and I don't recommend it for longer than correcting a problem and stop using it.
Once something is fixed I really do suggest quitting the snake oil products. I like SeaFoam for what it is and a few other tricks in a bottle but not many. Just think of Brylcreem - "A little Dab will do ya"
T
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ladagosta
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Mar 5, 2009, 5:25 PM
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I am thinking of using seafoam on my tractor and cars next.
I like it and I will go back and change the oil in her car tomorrow.
now I have only a 1/3 can left can i still do her intake and where is a intake vaccum line on this 3100 engine?
I will buy another 2 cans for our 4 cars we will need it.
they are all older cars so it sure couldnt hurt to run some through. I was planning on doing the spring oil changes on them any ways..
please walk me through it on the 3100 since it isnt my car I dont want to chance goofing it up any .. dont need family pissed off at me
I am so glad the car finally does not sound so bad.. and those clips dont do justice casue the noise was loud and then the only thing you could really hear after doing it was the belt spinning noise. her livein companion thought it was amazing that the noise went away.. frankly I was too,,,
an old bf of mine once said those additives are for Sh!t so I guess that is what he meant not to leave the stuff in the engines cause it will do more damage than good... He always said it causes wear on the rings and stuff...
the most I would ever use is murphys mystery oil and STP which I know dont do a whole lot..
thanks for helping me through this
(This post was edited by ladagosta on Mar 5, 2009, 5:33 PM)
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Tom Greenleaf
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Mar 6, 2009, 3:17 AM
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Note: If things were cared for to begin with you wouldn't need tricks and the tricks in a bottle is not a replacement for routine maintenance of a vehicle.
"If something ain't broke - don't fix it" is a good line for this too.
Vacuum lines: PCV, Brake booster are main lines in. Play rough with solvents and you may dislodge a chunk that won't clear out or cause problems where there were none! Your call,
T
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ladagosta
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Mar 6, 2009, 10:30 AM
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Tom,
when you can only afford to buy a second hand car, you have no idea who did or didnt do what to a vehicle.
I am only sorry i have never been in a position to buy a new car off the lot and maintain it from show room levels.
I was raised with the theory that if you take care of your car your car will take care of you, most often when people sell their vehicle it is becuase they did not take care of it and it is beginning to show signs of wear. Over the years I have learned a great deal of tricks mechanics use to hide problems and burn a used car out with a high profit for a P.O.S. Car that is on it's last leg. More often than not i can avoid buying these second hand cars, but not always, because some of the tricks work really well and even the best mechanics can be duped.
Even so I have managed to get many many miles on the vehicles I have owned and hope I will be able to help my sons learn how to do the same and to know when to dump something before it drains you dry..
I also dont beleive in fixing something that aint broke, but when you are dealing with cars that have over 100,000 miles on them before you take possession of them ,, chances are they were not taken care of the way I would take care of them.
I think in most fields professionals tend to go over board let me use the medical field today, that one is safe since I deal with it daily lately .. doctors tend to over medicate from the start, they are no longer conservative as they were when i was younger.. this IMHO is causing more problems over all in the health arena.
I tend to take a fraction of what they would give and tell them I didnt need quite as much as they offered me.. I only take what my body needs where they give me 4 times that. I hate over medicating, I hate medication same thing with additives. why do you think it took me this many years to even try seafoam..
But same as with the doctors and bodies, I would do that with cars what they say is "safe", I would probably go with a fraction of that and then even, tend to flush it out if told that others would doubt the long term benefits.
honestly, if I had a new car off the lot, I gather I would own it a life time provided it was not a lemon to start with..
Some people have money, others struggle without .. I am the later one. raising children on my own, my husband died (when they were little).. so it aint easy being in my shoes..but I manage the best i can..
Note: If things were cared for to begin with you wouldn't need tricks and the tricks in a bottle is not a replacement for routine maintenance of a vehicle.
"If something ain't broke - don't fix it" is a good line for this too.
Vacuum lines: PCV, Brake booster are main lines in. Play rough with solvents and you may dislodge a chunk that won't clear out or cause problems where there were none! Your call,
T
(This post was edited by ladagosta on Mar 6, 2009, 10:39 AM)
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Tom Greenleaf
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Mar 6, 2009, 10:50 AM
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I'm not trying to be hard on you at all. I've NEVER owned a new car - now decades on end of well used cars! You can tell tons about a car before purchase and even with new can have troubles. I love the 100K 10 year old used fleet as they cost so little and folks that did take care of them sometimes have an uneasy feeling they can last much longer and many I've taken over 200K from that as a start! Used also gives you an advantage of knowing which ones were better than others!
Yes - the used fleet out there can have problems covered up and the best of anyone can get fooled. I try to find one owner used cars for myself with a history and use private sales most. Great used cars are out there for assorted reasons. Lousy ones too!
We all do the best we can - me included on limited means.
Just a hoot - bought a car once (low mile old lady car) and it needed every last little thing that could ever go wrong with a car and nobody's fault really - just wasn't meant to be a great car but I loved that damn thing
Have a great weekend,
T
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ladagosta
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Mar 6, 2009, 12:01 PM
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before i buy a car I look at carcomplaints.com
found that if they have a complaint in the engine or transmission I will think harder about buying the thing.. I weigh in how many complaints, to what area the complaints are in, to how much is being asked, and how old and then do my fluid checks, tires, noises, hoses, belts, miles. etc. I find this process helps with the right purchase so far I havent gone wrong,, thank god for that...
I was up all night in pain, so sorry if I am appear testy. no sleep and pain does that too me. plus I guess life aint too easy on my years and I get sensitive cause heaven knows I have made some really bad decissions. but I think since i have been buying auto's for my sons I am doing much better.. now my concern here is :
are my choices for them better because it is their car and the curse over me doesnt apply? or becuase I have learned something over the years?.. LOL
Thanks for the help.. I will be looking here in the future.. got to lay down for a bit..
L
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