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97 Dodge Intrepid- no firing!


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CarrieJP
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Aug 9, 2012, 4:28 PM

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1997 Dodge Intrepid. 3.5motor. 162,000 miles. History- for last several months acted like it was gonna die when idling. Occasionally The abs light would come on and the ac would quit. If u tapped on the ignition it would come back on and light would go off. I was driving down the highway and it just died while going down the road. Now it will turn over but won't start. My dad is working on it for me and has checked everthing he knows to check but its not getting any fire at all. So far he has checked spark plugs and wires, battery, compression, replaced computer, coil, crank shaft sensor, cam shaft sensor, and last thing he checked was the electronic Ignition Control and there is no fire to it. Can u help please?


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Aug 9, 2012, 8:31 PM

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Are there any trouble codes stored in the engine computer?





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CarrieJP
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Aug 10, 2012, 2:37 PM

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I don't know if there are any codes in the computer. We cannot afford to take it to the shop to have it checked. My dad has been working on it on his own and has put a lot of money into it. We can't afford much more. He is not a professional but has a lot of experience working on all of our vehicles


CarrieJP
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Aug 10, 2012, 2:46 PM

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 Also we are really just guessing at it but we think it may be wiring or something in the steering coulumn. What do u think and how can we check it?


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Aug 10, 2012, 6:44 PM

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You don't need a code reader to get codes.


Using The Malfunction Indicator Lamp (MIL)
1. Cycle the ignition key On - Off - On - Off - On within 5 seconds.
2. Count the number of times the MIL (check engine lamp) on the instrument panel flashes on and off. The number of flashes represents the trouble code. There is a slight pause between the flashes representing the first and second digits of the code. Longer pauses separate individual two digit trouble codes.





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LDonnie
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Aug 10, 2012, 10:08 PM

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Whenever the check engine light came on on my Ford Focus (not sure if yours is on or if you already know this or not), I just went to AutoZone and they did a free check on it. Told me the name of the code and what was causing it. Did not cost me a dime.

I think they even give u the specific # or name of the code.


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Aug 10, 2012, 10:52 PM

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Carrie, you've spent more on parts that solved nothing than it would've cost to have a pro fix it right. Get the blink codes DS asked for and until specifically told so by a moderator here DO NOT allow that man to try to throw another part into it. Look how thats worked so far. Why replace the PCM? He doesn't even have a scanner to give a clue about codes to begin to test whether or not it was good or bad.

We don't throw parts at cars on a hunch, we diagnose and verify. He could've saved you a bunch of money taking it to a tech instead of a parts changer.


CarrieJP
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Aug 11, 2012, 9:35 PM

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Ok I will have the codes checked. And yes u are very right. He has been paying for all of the parts but so far its been a complete waste! He is 78 and very stubborn so until this pint he wouldn't listen when I suggested to take it to a pro. Each time he replaced something he was just sure that would fix the car but each time the same result! We will check the codes and let u know what happens. Thank u so much!


CarrieJP
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Aug 11, 2012, 9:39 PM

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Ok. Thank u very very much! We will try to check the codes ourselves and let u know how it goes. Sounds difficult to read tho so we may just have to take it in to the shop. Let u know how it goes! THANKS AGAIN! U GUYS ARE GREAT!


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Aug 11, 2012, 9:42 PM

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Autozone or some other parts stores will read them for free. Just don't let them sell you any parts. Just get the code numbers and post them here.




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Aug 11, 2012, 9:47 PM

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Kind of hard to get it to Autozone when it doesn't run. Unimpressed





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CarrieJP
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Aug 14, 2012, 12:01 AM

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Hi guys! Well we tried to check the codes but had no luck. Maybe I did something wrong idk but I also tried it on another of my vehicles I'm having trouble with and it did not work with it either. I did as u said -on off on off on in 5 sec- the check engine light never blinked. It just stayed on. Could I b doing something wrong? And yes the only way I could get the car to autozone would b to put it on a trailer and take it which isnot possible at the moment. So what can I do at this point? And thank u guys so much for helping me!!


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Aug 14, 2012, 2:28 AM

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I up late,bored and stumbled on this so i thought i throw this out there....


I don't know if they all do this or not,but the Autozone by me rents a code reader
You can ask your local store if they rent one ....maybe even check with a Pep Boys,they rent/loan tools as well
They also sell an inexpensive Actron code reader for like $50.00

Edit: Just remembered the OReillys Auto Parts here won't read your codes like Autozone but will rent a code reader to you.

I know you mentioned he performed a compression test...are you sure he did?
Reason i ask is these are known for Timing Belts breaking/water pumps locking up (Belt drives the pump)
Did he check to make sure the timing belt is ok?

You also mentioned tapping on the Ignition would bring things back ....
Sounds like you've had an Ignition Switch problem

Did he check fuses?
Here is a vid with one to check....
If so,has to be a reason it blew
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CN5j8nwtlV8
Listen to the engine crank in the video,thats how it should sound with compression....
Does yours sound this way?


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Aug 14, 2012, 6:35 AM

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I also tried it on another of my vehicles I'm having trouble with and it did not work with it either.


That only works on Chrysler products

Your test results could also mean there is a PCM problem.




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Unplug the TPS to create a problem and retry the code retrieval procedure. See if the PCM flashes a code 24.





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