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20'05 International School Bus - O2 Sensor Issues


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PontiacPower
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Jan 25, 2014, 5:08 PM

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20'05 International School Bus - O2 Sensor Issues Sign In

Hello, everyone. I have a 2005 International school bus and have encountered an odd problem with my O2 sensor and the problem is recurring.

It all began about five months ago when the bus began putting out clouds of black, cold exhaust. I took it into a truck shop to discover that the O2 sensor was shot. We replaced it but not even a week later the sensor goes out again. We replace it once more, only for it to go out... yet again!

Does anyone here with diesel vehicle knowledge have any idea on how to fix this?

Additional Information:
Year of vehicle: 2005
Make of vehicle: International (IC Bus)
Model of vehicle: BE Series Bus
Engine size: MaxxForce® 7
Milage/Kilometers: 157,053 Miles


kev2
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Jan 25, 2014, 5:36 PM

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Re: 20'05 International School Bus - O2 Sensor Issues Sign In

  something is not right- luckly you can access the PCM, look at codes - engine sensor readings etc.

I suspect the o2 sensor would set codes as it 'fails' you have not mentioned anything about codes or scanning etc so I want to mention as it is a missing piece of the puzzle.
Most likely the o2 sensor is not the culprit but is being affected by another issue likely - fuel issue, is this a international dealer?


nickwarner
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Jan 26, 2014, 10:56 AM

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Re: 20'05 International School Bus - O2 Sensor Issues Sign In

O2 sensor? Thats not making much sense in a diesel. What is the exact model of the engine? Most IH busses use the DT466E motor. You are obviously overfueling. I wonder if this "O2" sensor is actually the EGT sensor and being confused by someone not familiar with these.

I don't have access to the guides on the HD diesels right now, but you may be able to find some info for how to get blink codes out of it on YouTube or something. Thing is you're going to need a shop with an ISIS subscription to get much troubleshooting info out of the codes.

I would start looking at some basic things here, which you may or may not have the tools to do. Get the CAC pipe off of the turbine outlet and have a very good look at the turbine blades. If you find any cracking or damage you will need a new turbo. If there is a bunch of oil inside the housing you will likewise need a turbo, as the seal for the turbine bearing is gone. If you have any broken blades you not only need to replace it you need all the ducting to the CAC through to the intake taken apart and cleaned of debris.

If the turbo is still intact you will want to verify what boost levels you get. You need to plumb a gauge into the pipe going into the intake. Should be a pipe plug somewhere along there you can tap into with a gauge. Take it for a drive and accelerate, watching to see how much boost you can make. If its very low, your ECM will end up overfueling as it is expecting more air than it is getting. You get black smoke from that.

If you are getting low boost you will then want to perform a pressure test of the entire CAC system to see if the boost is bleeding off through leaks.

Forgot to mention at the top, first thing you need to be checking is the air filter and ducting heading to the inlet of the turbo. If its plugged up or the filter is damaged it will restrict airflow. See a lot of that mostly on agricultural applications that are around a lot of grain dust but still possible in OTR type is its parked a lot. Maybe even a mouse nest in the air cleaner.






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