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2003 dodge ram 5.7 hemi will start but dies if dont give gas and white smoke out muffler after it dies


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lavergne
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Dec 19, 2015, 12:09 PM

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  post locked   2003 dodge ram 5.7 hemi will start but dies if dont give gas and white smoke out muffler after it dies  

 



(This post was edited by lavergne on Dec 19, 2015, 1:11 PM)


kev2
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Dec 19, 2015, 12:33 PM

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all starting problems are the same checks. BASICS !
the engine cranks but wont start?
Codes - yes even if CEL is off. post ALL
spark at several plugs. yes no?
fuel pressure. post PSI.
those should should yield a clue...
Next ANYTHING not OEM suspect all aftermarket BS - ie chips, tuners, magnets, tornados, filters remote start, alarms.
then compression and vacuum checks.


Hammer Time
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Dec 19, 2015, 12:35 PM

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He can't even be bothered to type out a question. I doubt he'll do any testing.



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lavergne
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Dec 19, 2015, 12:56 PM

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ive checked spark.im new to this forum the truck turns over fine it will run breiflybut just wants to die .i will feather gas pedal and i can keep it running for a a bit but when it stops i get tons of smoke coming out the muffler whit smoke.after messing with it this morning now i have oil coming down onto exaustnear rearof engine.


lavergne
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Dec 19, 2015, 12:59 PM

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why you saying im lazy and i wont do any testing like i said im new to this and im still figuring out how to use this .i just got email and i answered question.


lavergne
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Dec 19, 2015, 1:01 PM

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also no codes says no problems.yes im getting spark.and it will start just have to feather gas alot


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Dec 19, 2015, 1:22 PM

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I am a little confused- you did scan for codes- SCAN ?
YOU DID NOT LET US KNOW IS VEHICLE stock? most likely suspect with hemi's.
do a fuel pressure test, then with KOEO observe fuel pressure drop - post results - drops xpsi in 5 min.
anything precede this no start- overheat, dead battery, stall, deep water,
check coolant for oil and oil for coolant - and ck oil for excess fuel.


lavergne
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Dec 19, 2015, 1:28 PM

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yes i scan for codes and its saying no problems.yes everything is stock .and it will start but i have to give it alot of gas but after i let it die i get alot of white smoke at muffler.also this mornig i was running it and after it died i noticed a oil leakwhere exaust meets engine.no anti freeze in oil.


Tom Greenleaf
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Dec 19, 2015, 1:39 PM

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What causes this oil leak on hot exhaust parts? An oil pressure switch? Check oil level it could be pouring out more than you think.
Not sure but if incorrect oil pressure because of a leak or problem there this engine might self shut down? IDK for sure on this one.
What is leaking and why do you think it's out exhaust pipe if that's what you meant? Smoke out your rear view I doubt you know where.


A reason engine want more RPM is oil pressure would go up - look at what's leaking as I think that's the problem. Out of oil whole engine will be and you wont have to worry about that one anymore!


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kev2
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Dec 19, 2015, 1:40 PM

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throttle opening is giving it AIR, that's why I suggested the fuel pressure leak down ck.
understood no coolant in oil BUT ck for excess fuel- yes it overly cautious but prudent.
anything preceding? you drove last night and anything?


lavergne
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Dec 19, 2015, 1:51 PM

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im not sure how to do fuel pressure test .i havnt got it running enough to drive it.the oil is leaking from passenger side at rear of engine where exaust pipe come from engine.the engine oil amount is fine according to dip stick.and there is no excess gas.


lavergne
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Dec 19, 2015, 1:55 PM

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the oil leak just started today as this was the longest i was able to keep it running.and the smoke isnt from lleaking on to hot exaust it only smoke out of muffler.i got underneath and seen the smoke only coming out of muffler.


Tom Greenleaf
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Dec 19, 2015, 2:07 PM

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Back a few post you said oil was leaking ON engine. If confused where on my part sorry. Do make sure pressure at least at gauge reads properly and oil is full not with odor of fuel.


Fuel pressure test results would really help as well already mentioned,


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lavergne
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Dec 19, 2015, 2:10 PM

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no what i tried to say was oil leaking from passenger side rear of engine where exaust meats engine...


lavergne
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Dec 19, 2015, 2:31 PM

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after this morning i just went back to truck and engine oil is milky.i think gas in oil.


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Dec 19, 2015, 2:47 PM

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there is no major oil components rear R/S ie sensors, filter, cooling line.
The milky appearing oil is a sign of COOLANT in oil... open radiator have a look there.
SOMETHING is missing - Did you operate vehicle last or did some one else drive it ? Funny that you drove truck all was well, this morning no start, leaking, and oil appears milky.
back to basics- spark - how do plugs look wet dry black tan OR steam cleaned look?
that fuel pressure, again...





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lavergne
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Dec 19, 2015, 3:12 PM

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im sorry i meant coolant.the wife drove truck last its been sitting for two weeks and ive been putting money into it.first it just clicked so i replaced starter and battery and cable going from battery to starter.so it still just clicked and everybody told me engine seized.i didnt think it did so i fooled around with it and got it to turn over.so we left town and got back and i started messing with it again,i was able to get it to start but had to keep pushing gas pedal it never ran correctly.so today i went out this morning and got it to run for about a minutethen i heard some noise on passenger front so i got out and climed under and seen the oil leak at back of engine right by where it meets the exaustor right above exaust pipe.that is the entire story.


lavergne
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Dec 19, 2015, 3:22 PM

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it now sounds like head gasket is shot but i dont understand why it wont at least run normal.my wife left it ideling when she went to post office and when she came out it was barely running and she said it was clangy sound.


lavergne
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Dec 19, 2015, 3:24 PM

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the oil leak seems to be coming from right under knock sensor in your diagram.


Hammer Time
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Dec 19, 2015, 3:44 PM

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im sorry i meant coolant.the wife drove truck last its been sitting for two weeks and ive been putting money into it.first it just clicked so i replaced starter and battery and cable going from battery to starter.so it still just clicked and everybody told me engine seized.i didnt think it did so i fooled around with it and got it to turn over.so we left town and got back and i started messing with it again,i was able to get it to start but had to keep pushing gas pedal it never ran correctly.so today i went out this morning and got it to run for about a minutethen i heard some noise on passenger front so i got out and climed under and seen the oil leak at back of engine right by where it meets the exaustor right above exaust pipe.that is the entire story.



You just NOW decide to tell us this?



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lavergne
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Dec 19, 2015, 4:13 PM

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excuse me it seems like you have nothing nice to say to me .like i said im new to this and you hammer time got me flustered right off the bat .you wouldnt happen to be the owner of hammer time in belvidere illinois would ya and also you havent helped in any way except saying rude things to me so why dont you just not say anything.are you like the best mechanic in the world cause you act like your Sh!t dont stink .so really i dont care you can kiss my you know what!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Hammer Time
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Dec 19, 2015, 4:21 PM

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OK, those remarks will bring this to a close right now.

Highly experienced technicians are donating their valuable time here to help people like you for free but you can't even be bothered to give them the whole story and just proceed to waste their time.

I'm sorry if I offended you but you are just wasting our time here so I'm closing this question now.



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(This post was edited by Hammer Time on Dec 19, 2015, 4:22 PM)






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