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1990 Honda Civic DX 1.5 Starving for fuel


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BobbyD
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Jul 29, 2009, 1:26 PM

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1990 Honda Civic DX 1.5 Starving for fuel Sign In

After the engine is warmed up it starves for fuel. If I put it in neutral turn ignition off and on to run the fuel pump I can drive it home. The fuel pump does not seem to run while driving.


Loren Champlain Sr
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Jul 29, 2009, 1:38 PM

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Re: 1990 Honda Civic DX 1.5 Starving for fuel Sign In

Bobby; >>The fuel pump does not seem to run while driving.>> That's kind of funny. If the fuel pump wasn't running, you wouldn't be driving. It is very possible that you have a plugged fuel filter. That is where I'd start looking.
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Jul 29, 2009, 1:47 PM

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As Loren said, if you haven't changed your fuel filter lately that would be a good start. If that doesn't help then you are going to have check pressure & power to the pump while the problem is happening. You don't see to many Honda fuel pumps go out. If you are having a voltage problem I would probably look at the main relay, that is one area that Honda's do have problems..........


BobbyD
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Jul 29, 2009, 3:02 PM

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Re: 1990 Honda Civic DX 1.5 Starving for fuel Sign In

Hey Loren,
Sorry I didn't make myself very clear. The car does run but after it warms up it doesn't have any power...no fuel to the engine. The fuel filter is brand new and the "old'' filter was also clean. Must be something besides that. Thanks for your help.


BobbyD
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Jul 29, 2009, 3:12 PM

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As Loren said, if you haven't changed your fuel filter lately that would be a good start. If that doesn't help then you are going to have check pressure & power to the pump while the problem is happening. You don't see to many Honda fuel pumps go out. If you are having a voltage problem I would probably look at the main relay, that is one area that Honda's do have problems..........



(This post was edited by BobbyD on Jul 29, 2009, 3:34 PM)


BobbyD
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Jul 29, 2009, 3:37 PM

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Re: 1990 Honda Civic DX 1.5 Starving for fuel Sign In

Let's give this one more try.
Sidom, the fuel filter is a new one. I will give your other two suggestions a try. Thanks.


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Jul 29, 2009, 8:53 PM

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How have you concluded that this is a fuel starvation issue?



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BobbyD
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Jul 30, 2009, 3:17 AM

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That's what I'm thinking. The car starts up great,then I take it out for a spin and then it dies out. I turn off the key, then on to run the fuel pump then start and the car runs again until it runs out of pressure. I'm going to check the pressure while it acts up.


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Jul 30, 2009, 3:25 AM

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That's exactly what you need to do before concluding anything about fuel being the cause.
Monitor the pressure during the failure



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BobbyD
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Jul 31, 2009, 7:26 AM

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Re: 1990 Honda Civic DX 1.5 Starving for fuel Sign In

I checked pressure while driving the car and that is not the problem. It only stalls while driving not while it is idling.
Could it be the oxygen sensor? Thanks again for your help guys.


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Jul 31, 2009, 7:28 AM

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Were you watching the pressure as the car was stalling? That's the only way you can eliminate it.



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BobbyD
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Jul 31, 2009, 7:37 AM

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Yes I was. I had the pressure gauge on the windshield.


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Jul 31, 2009, 7:54 AM

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OK, One thing that Hondas are notorious for is the main relays failing in hot weather. It's located under the dash on the driver's side. Another possibility could be the distributor getting hot and failing from heat sink.



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BobbyD
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Jul 31, 2009, 9:04 AM

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Doesn't the main relay control the fuel pressure? I checked the igniter and the coil and both checked out.
Thanks.


(This post was edited by BobbyD on Jul 31, 2009, 9:07 AM)


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Jul 31, 2009, 9:09 AM

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Yes, you are correct. My bad.

You really need to know if it's dropping spark, injector pulse or both. It's likely either the pick up coil or the ignitor and they are both inside the distributor so if you can try another distributor, that will tell you.



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BobbyD
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Jul 31, 2009, 9:20 AM

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Monday I will pick-up a distributor and give that a try. It's half price at the "Pull A Part". Thanks again.


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Jul 31, 2009, 9:39 AM

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Just make sure it is complete with an Igniter.



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Jul 31, 2009, 1:16 PM

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Doesn't the main relay control the fuel pressure? I checked the igniter and the coil and both checked out.
Thanks.


You are correct in that one of the things it controls is power to the fuel pump but that's not the only thing it powers. It also powers the ECU & injectors..........But Honda has also had problems with distributor assemblies also......


BobbyD
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Aug 1, 2009, 2:29 PM

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Re: 1990 Honda Civic DX 1.5 Starving for fuel Sign In

I replaced the coil and the ignitor and tested the main relay. Still having the same problem.


Hammer Time
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Aug 1, 2009, 2:33 PM

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First off, there is no way to test an intermittent relay.
I don't know why you changed the coil, we talked about the distributor, not the coil. It's the pick up coil that I was concerned with which is in the distributor, not the ignition coil. You were going to change the whole distributor.



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