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04 impala weird issues runs great then dies suddenly


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dwood1971
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Mar 15, 2015, 7:13 AM

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I have a 04 impala with the 3.8 engine that I'm having some issues with and could use some help. Issues started about 2 weeks ago when the CEL came on for code P0107 Manifold Absolute Pressure/Barometric Pressure Circuit Low Input. Car was running fine with no issues then yesterday while I was on lunch break car justed died it would start back up but cuts of immediatly and will not run. I call a buddy to come and pick me up and I go back to work for about 5 hours. When I get off work go back to car and it runs great so I start home and after about 10 mins of driving samething happens. Luckly I was close to a parts store so I purchased a MAP sensor and installed it and reset the code P0107 but still would not run. Left car sitting in a parking lot over night and go back the next day and car starts right up and runs fine. I start home again and car doing ok for several miles and then the CEL starts to flash I get it home and check codes and it has the P0300 for multiple misfires. Now I have it home where i can work on it.

Car runs fine for about 15 miles then starts to act up. I have done some research and symptoms point to clogged Catalytic Converter. To test this theory can I just pull the upstream O2 sensor to releave the back pressure form the CAT ?

I have graphed sensor data for O2 sensor, MAP sensor , and also MAF sensor. Uploaded a slide show to youtube and attached the link.

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Engine Cold....MAP sensor with engine off key turned on reading 1.0 ATM. Then started car and reading went to .42 ATM at idle and when I increase RPM to 2500 drops to .28 ATM I did not take pictures of this picture are from after car had warmed up.

Engine warm...MAP sensor at idle .35 Atm increase RPM goes to .28 Atm

O2 sensor car was warmed up to operating temp graph is in slide show but noticed when I increased RMP graph changed dramatically and graph was all over notice in picture one picture is at idle and the other is at 2500 RPM.

MAF sensor was also showing some funning readings ...see pictures

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Discretesignals
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Mar 16, 2015, 3:17 PM

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Car runs fine for about 15 miles then starts to act up. I have done some research and symptoms point to clogged Catalytic Converter.


Just curious, but how can a catalytic converter suddenly clog and then unclog itself? If you think the cat is causing an intermittent no start, install a back pressure gauge into the pre cat O2 port and see if you have excessive back pressure.

You need to figure out what goes missing when it doesn't want to start.

Read this:

http://autoforums.carjunky.com/...LL_NOT_START_P75655/

On these vehicle the MAP sensor is only used for measuring baro pressure and acting as a back up if the MAF sensor fails. Usually MAP sensors don't cause stalling unless they are somehow shorting out the PCM's 5 volt reference circuit. You can verify that using a volt meter back probed on any of the sensors 5 volt ref circuits.

Just because a code appears doesn't mean the a particular sensor failed because it is mentioned in the code description. The code points you in a direction for diagnosis. Just to let you know that if the engine stalls, a MAP sensor performance code could be set because of low manifold vacuum from a stalled engine.





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