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Courtesy Lights on my 1999 Buick LeSabre stay on for too long


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Mike T.
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Sep 14, 2013, 12:01 PM

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1999
Buick
Le sabre
3.8 Ltr. V6
136,000 Miles
My car needed to be "Jumped Off" several times over a period of a few months. I replaced the battery and terminals and had the charging system checked. It checked out OK. I noticed the Courtesy Lights (Headlights, Interiorlights Etc.) staying on longer than usual when I turned the car off so I decided to time them. They stay on for 10 Minutes after the ignition is turned off. How can I disconnect the Courtesy Lights so I don't have this problem again?


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Sep 14, 2013, 12:30 PM

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Does this have twilight sentinel? If it does and you turn the timer all the way down, do the headlamps turn off in less time?





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Sep 14, 2013, 12:51 PM

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If your battery can't hold up to 10 minutes of courtesy lights, then you have a bad battery. I didn't see anywhere that you had that tested.




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Mike T.
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Sep 14, 2013, 1:23 PM

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Yes it has the twilight sensor and it is turned down all the way. That is what I thought the problem might have been to begin with, but having it all the way down doesn't effect it. Is there a way to disconnect it?


Mike T.
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Sep 14, 2013, 1:25 PM

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I replaced the Battery and terminals and had the charging system checked and it checked out OK.


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Sep 14, 2013, 1:37 PM

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HT is correct in that the lights staying on for 10 minutes shouldn't kill the battery, but that may be a sign of something that isn't shutting off. The headlamps are controlled by the lamp control module and the courtesy lamps are controlled by the body control module.

If you disconnect the lamp control module, you won't have headlamps. If you disconnect the BCM, practically everything in the vehicle won't operate.

The next thing that should be done is a parasitic draw test. That might help isolate what is staying on.





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Sep 14, 2013, 2:28 PM

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Here's your parasitic draw procedure.

You will need a digital ammeter and a jumper wire with clips on the ends to do this.
First rig any door switches so you can have a door open without triggering the interior lights and unplug the hood light. Remove one battery cable and attach the meter in series between the battery cable and battery post. Take the jumper wire and also attach it the same way. Leave the jumper wire on for at least 10 minutes to expire all the automatic timers. Now remove the jumper wire and read the meter. Anything over 50ma is too much draw. The way you locate this is to start removing fuses one at a time until the meter drops to normal level. This will be the circuit with something staying on. Determine what components are part of that circuit and check them individually until the problem is isolated.




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Mike T.
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Sep 14, 2013, 3:43 PM

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Thank You Both very much. I have been told that the Security System has gone off by itself when no one was around. Could that be the Culprit?
I will take it to the shop to test the BCM.Unsure


(This post was edited by Mike T. on Sep 15, 2013, 4:23 PM)




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