Main IndexAuto Repair Home Search Posts SEARCH
POSTS
Who's Online WHO'S
ONLINE
Log in LOG
IN









98 Taurus, power windows/locks wont work


  Email This Post



EveryGoodNameWasTaken
Novice
EveryGoodNameWasTaken profile image

Mar 10, 2012, 3:26 PM

Post #1 of 15 (2771 views)
Shortcut
98 Taurus, power windows/locks wont work Sign In

1998 Ford Taurus GL 3.0 V6

I have a 98 Taurus and the power windows/locks don't work. I cant figure out why. Fuses 27 and 33 are fine. Relay 39 seems to be fine and relay 34 gets pretty hot, but doesn't seem to be the problem, either. I switched it out with relay 35 to test it and there was no difference. I tried testing the relay 34 outlet with multimeter, but couldn't get a reading. It is really dark under there, though. May have done it wrong.

Just to clarify, none of the windows or locks even try to work. At all. When I got the car, someone had disabled them both to try and solve a battery problem, but I cant figure out how they did it..


Discretesignals
Veteran / Moderator
Discretesignals profile image

Mar 10, 2012, 3:40 PM

Post #2 of 15 (2745 views)
Shortcut
Re: 98 Taurus, power windows/locks wont work [In reply to] Sign In

The door locks circuit isn't protected by fuses. They are protected by a circuit breaker. Do the door locks operate with the remote? Does this have any aftermarket equipment installed?





Since we volunteer our time and knowledge, we ask for you to please follow up when a problem is resolved.


EveryGoodNameWasTaken
Novice
EveryGoodNameWasTaken profile image

Mar 10, 2012, 3:44 PM

Post #3 of 15 (2741 views)
Shortcut
Re: 98 Taurus, power windows/locks wont work [In reply to] Sign In

No, the door locks don't opperate via remote either. There's also no aftermarket equiptment on this car whatsoever save for a pair of subs. Where might I find this circuit breaker??


Discretesignals
Veteran / Moderator
Discretesignals profile image

Mar 10, 2012, 4:07 PM

Post #4 of 15 (2725 views)
Shortcut
Re: 98 Taurus, power windows/locks wont work [In reply to] Sign In

The 30 amp breaker is in the fuse panel under the hood in position 4.

For the windows:

Pull the driver's door master control panel out and check the light blue/black wire for battery voltage with the ignition turned on. Also make sure all the connectors are plugged into the panel. Someone may have disabled the windows by pulling the connectors from the switch.





Since we volunteer our time and knowledge, we ask for you to please follow up when a problem is resolved.

(This post was edited by Discretesignals on Mar 10, 2012, 4:09 PM)


EveryGoodNameWasTaken
Novice
EveryGoodNameWasTaken profile image

Mar 10, 2012, 4:33 PM

Post #5 of 15 (2710 views)
Shortcut
Re: 98 Taurus, power windows/locks wont work [In reply to] Sign In

how do I reverse the breaker?


EveryGoodNameWasTaken
Novice
EveryGoodNameWasTaken profile image

Mar 10, 2012, 4:39 PM

Post #6 of 15 (2707 views)
Shortcut
Re: 98 Taurus, power windows/locks wont work [In reply to] Sign In

Just checked the door panel. Everything seems to be hooked in just fine. There's no power running through that light blue/black wire, though.


Discretesignals
Veteran / Moderator
Discretesignals profile image

Mar 10, 2012, 4:57 PM

Post #7 of 15 (2695 views)
Shortcut
Re: 98 Taurus, power windows/locks wont work [In reply to] Sign In

Remove the breaker from the fuse panel. Use your test lamp or meter and check for battery voltage inside the circuit breaker cavity. One terminal inside the breaker cavity should have battery voltage.





Since we volunteer our time and knowledge, we ask for you to please follow up when a problem is resolved.

(This post was edited by Discretesignals on Mar 10, 2012, 4:58 PM)


EveryGoodNameWasTaken
Novice
EveryGoodNameWasTaken profile image

Mar 10, 2012, 5:03 PM

Post #8 of 15 (2688 views)
Shortcut
Re: 98 Taurus, power windows/locks wont work [In reply to] Sign In

And then?


Discretesignals
Veteran / Moderator
Discretesignals profile image

Mar 10, 2012, 5:05 PM

Post #9 of 15 (2683 views)
Shortcut
Re: 98 Taurus, power windows/locks wont work [In reply to] Sign In

Do you hear the warning chime when you have the key in the ignition with the door open? Does the seat belt indicator light up if you have the engine running without your seat belt on?





Since we volunteer our time and knowledge, we ask for you to please follow up when a problem is resolved.


EveryGoodNameWasTaken
Novice
EveryGoodNameWasTaken profile image

Mar 11, 2012, 3:43 PM

Post #10 of 15 (2654 views)
Shortcut
Re: 98 Taurus, power windows/locks wont work [In reply to] Sign In

The door open chime goes off constantly in my car unless the key is in the ignition and turned on. Then it stops. And I believe the seat blet light works for the driver seat but not the passenger.


Discretesignals
Veteran / Moderator
Discretesignals profile image

Mar 11, 2012, 7:20 PM

Post #11 of 15 (2636 views)
Shortcut
Re: 98 Taurus, power windows/locks wont work [In reply to] Sign In

The seat belt indicator coming on and the chime operating is a good indicator the GEM is up and running. The GEM is basically a body control computer. The GEM controls a relay called ASD (accessory delay relay) to allow power to the power window and moon roof systems. The door locks happen to be on a separate circuit than the windows.

You still need to check for power in the circuit breaker cavity position 4. One side of the cavity where the breaker plugs in should have battery voltage. The other side goes to the lock and unlock relays. You should have continuity ( zero ohms) across the terminals of the circuit breaker itself. Let us know if you have power in the cavity or not, so we can isolate the problem with the door lock system first.





Since we volunteer our time and knowledge, we ask for you to please follow up when a problem is resolved.

(This post was edited by Discretesignals on Mar 11, 2012, 7:25 PM)


EveryGoodNameWasTaken
Novice
EveryGoodNameWasTaken profile image

Dec 26, 2012, 5:52 PM

Post #12 of 15 (2030 views)
Shortcut
Re: 98 Taurus, power windows/locks wont work [In reply to] Sign In

The locks aren't my main concern, I'd really rather have the windows functional. I'm also no sure where the circuit breaker cavity is located?

I went and checked the voltage at all my fuses today and most of them checked out just fine. Fuse #33 in the interior box(power windows), however, only reads 4V instead of 12V. I'm not really sure what might cause that. I tried switching out my PCM relay, but it didn't do anything.


P.Ss. sry about the delay in reply. I've been without internet for some time now.


Discretesignals
Veteran / Moderator
Discretesignals profile image

Dec 26, 2012, 7:31 PM

Post #13 of 15 (2020 views)
Shortcut
Re: 98 Taurus, power windows/locks wont work [In reply to] Sign In

You need to find connector C502 and check for power there by back probing both sides of the connector (if possible) with your volt meter. With the ignition on, you should see battery voltage at light blue/black wire. C502 is a 56 pin inline connector. Light blue/black is in position 52 in the middle of the connector. The connector is located in the left front door jamb.

There should be battery voltage at fuse 33 5 amp when the ignition is on and the accessory delay relay is energized. You could have resistance in the circuit causing a voltage drop. You would have to load the circuit so there is current running through it, so you can check the voltage drop. Loading the circuit with an old sealed beam headlamp on high beam lamp puts a decent load in the circuit and should pull over 5 amps. Your also going to need a wiring schematic, so you know where to check for drops.

Curious, but how did you test relay #39 and found it was good?





Since we volunteer our time and knowledge, we ask for you to please follow up when a problem is resolved.

(This post was edited by Discretesignals on Dec 26, 2012, 7:41 PM)


Sidom
Veteran / Moderator
Sidom profile image

Dec 26, 2012, 11:56 PM

Post #14 of 15 (2012 views)
Shortcut
Re: 98 Taurus, power windows/locks wont work [In reply to] Sign In


In Reply To
When I got the car, someone had disabled them both to try and solve a battery problem, but I cant figure out how they did it..


How do you know this? You can't ask them?

The backyard way to solve a battery problem like that would be to pull a fuse or relay........Backup & double check all the fuse info DS told you to do... If what you say is true.....you're missing something easy....






__________________________________________________________________________________________



reinke1360
New User

Jan 2, 2014, 9:00 PM

Post #15 of 15 (1041 views)
Shortcut
Re: 98 Taurus, power windows/locks wont work [In reply to] Sign In

I have a 99 Taurus with the same problem. We had to replace the wires that run in a channel in the left front fender. Water sets in the channel and if you bend the wires they break. It worked great after that.


(This post was edited by reinke1360 on Jan 2, 2014, 9:12 PM)




Advertising


  Email This Post
 
 






Latest Forum Post

on a 1998 Chrysler cirrus the heater blows warm thru the vents. When u turn it o...


I will try and be as clear as I can. 1999 Fleetwood tioga (ford e350) I turn my ...


I have a 2006 Nissan maxima 3.5 There is nothing wrong with it but I was wonde...


blower motor did not work i pulled it out and tested it it worked i put it back...


So I have a 1999 ford escort zx2 it has the 2.0 i4 doc engine with the 5 speed t...


Hope everyone is doing well. Now that work has slowed down I decided to take a l...


Feed Button






Automotive Forum Categories
AC Auto Repair
Auto Body Repair
Auto Insurance
Automotive Repair
Automotive Wiring
Automotive World
Brake Systems
Car Care Tips
Car Racing
Car Shows and Events
Car Stereo Repair
Car Troubleshooting
Engine and Car Noises
Engine Fault Codes
Engine Troubleshooting
Exhaust System Repair
Gasoline and Motor Oils
General Discussions
Motor Vehicle Inspection
Motorcycle ATV Repairs
Motorcycle Body Repair
Motorcycle Clutch Repair
Motorcycle Engine Repair
Motorcycle Repair
Motorcycle Seat Repair
Remote Control Cars
Steering and Suspension
The Bargin Bin
Traffic Ticket Help
Tricks of the Trade
Truck Repair
Truck Repair Advice
Truck Engine Repair
Truck Suspension Repair
Car Forum - Sitemap


Search for (options) Privacy