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milkman2010
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Feb 20, 2017, 1:10 PM

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Hello I am a first time poster. Please bear with me. Smile

I have a 2001 Honda CRV 2.0L with about 200,000 miles on it (266000 km). I drove the crv back home from work one day without any issues. About a half hour later I tried to start it and it gave about a half a crank, then just a single click sound every time I turned the key. I recharged the battery over night. It read 12.5V after the charge. I cleaned the terminals and cables and hooked it up and tried again. Still just a single click sound every time I turned the key. The click sound is coming from the passenger side of the vehicle, either inside or under the hood at or near the fuse panel. I tested the negative terminal to the starter case for continuity and it was fine. I even tapped the started a few times with a hammer, but no such luck. I'm doubtful it's the alternator since the battery didn't die while I was driving. I'm at a loss as to know where to turn next for a solution.

Any help would be much appreciated.

PS I also tried boosting it from my civic but still just a single click...


(This post was edited by milkman2010 on Feb 20, 2017, 1:12 PM)


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Feb 20, 2017, 1:56 PM

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Before going too far, put a socket on the crankshaft bolt and see if the engine can be turned by hand.



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milkman2010
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Feb 20, 2017, 2:00 PM

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I will try tomorrow. Its getting cold and dark now. I'm guessing you are thinking the engine is seized? I'm suspecting not as I had an oil change with the past few months and really don't put many miles on the vehicle.


(This post was edited by milkman2010 on Feb 20, 2017, 2:20 PM)


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Feb 20, 2017, 11:51 PM

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Check as Hammer Time just said. Go backwards and forwards a little.


IDK - recent oil change may or may not be any reason. So for description if cables are good at both ends and same behavior even with a boost a stuck engine either seized or maybe hydraulic lock of oil, fuel or coolant if so would spit out with spark plugs removed.


Barely matters but 266,000 KM should = about 165,000 miles both high enough for surprises,


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Feb 21, 2017, 5:39 AM

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I'd recommend having the battery tested first. Just because you charged it doesn't mean its good. It needs to be tested. That would be the easiest thing to start with.





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milkman2010
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Feb 22, 2017, 2:16 PM

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Ok I just spent 45 minutes on the crv and here is my update.
I put a socket on the engine crank bolt and manually turned it so the engine isn't seized thankfully.
I took the working battery out of my civic and tried it in the crv, still the same click sound. I then tried my crv battery in the civic and it worked perfectly.

So, it isn't the engine and it isn't the battery.

Where do I go from here?


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Feb 22, 2017, 2:25 PM

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Sounds like the starter. If you can access it try tapping on the body of the starter with a large screwdriver or small hammer while a helper is trying to start it.



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milkman2010
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Feb 22, 2017, 2:27 PM

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I tried the tap the starter trick on day one with no such luck. I might hot wire the starter next. Or any other ideas?l


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Feb 22, 2017, 2:31 PM

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You can either hotwire the starter or test for power arriving at the small wire when the key is held in start.



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milkman2010
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Feb 22, 2017, 2:32 PM

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Its getting dark here now, I will try to jump it with a screwdriver tomorrow.


(This post was edited by milkman2010 on Feb 22, 2017, 2:40 PM)


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Feb 22, 2017, 2:44 PM

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No, if you DO have power, the starter is bad. If you don't get power on that wire, the problem is elsewhere in the circuit and you will have to follow a wiring diagram.



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milkman2010
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Feb 23, 2017, 2:10 PM

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Ok here is my daily update. I managed to get one end of a jumper wire on the constant terminal on the starter and the other end on the small terminal on the starter. There was a spark. I also used my meter to test the constant terminal a d it read more than 12V.

I removed the two bolts holding the starter in place but the starter seems stuck. Any trick to removing it? And is it the next logical step to remove it and test it on the bench?


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Feb 23, 2017, 2:13 PM

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You likely just don't have all the bolts out yet.



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milkman2010
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Feb 23, 2017, 2:20 PM

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I can only see two. I will have to search the web to see if it has more.Unsure


milkman2010
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Feb 23, 2017, 2:28 PM

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According to a crv video I just watched, the starter just has two bolts and should slide right out. I did manage to loosen it a little by putting pliers under it and lifting, but its still not enough.


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Feb 23, 2017, 2:33 PM

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It should basically fall out when the correct bolts are removed.



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milkman2010
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Feb 23, 2017, 2:36 PM

Post #17 of 23 (1496 views)
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It is 15 years old and probably just stuck. Tomorrow I will try again.


milkman2010
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Feb 24, 2017, 2:24 PM

Post #18 of 23 (1475 views)
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Ok, time for my daily update. I have the starter removed. And I took it inside the house. I noticed the exposed wire from the solenoid to the starter was in very bad shape. So bad that it fell apart when I touched it. Could the condition of this wire be the root cause of my single click sound?


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Feb 24, 2017, 2:28 PM

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That's not just a piece of wire. It is a braid that is part of the starter magnet/armature. If that is damaged, you need a new starter.



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milkman2010
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Feb 24, 2017, 2:34 PM

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No way to replace the braided wire?


Hammer Time
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Feb 24, 2017, 2:35 PM

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I just answered that question.



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milkman2010
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Feb 24, 2017, 2:38 PM

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You did. But that wasn't my original question.


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Feb 24, 2017, 2:45 PM

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OK, we've wasted enough time on this.

If you don't like the advice fine, but I'm not just going to keep repeating myself because you're looking for a Mickey Mouse way to fix this.
It needs a starter.

Closing this now.



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