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1999 pontiac sunfire 2.2L, Auto, Starter stays engaged


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EESTER
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Feb 20, 2014, 2:02 PM

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(Edited) This thread re written and was confused. Wrote new subject line for the original person now waiting for replies from them to some questions below a bit confused now.
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(This post was edited by Tom Greenleaf on Feb 21, 2014, 12:18 AM)


Tom Greenleaf
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Feb 20, 2014, 2:11 PM

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Do you care to tell us anything more than that or is it a secret?


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Feb 20, 2014, 2:15 PM

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Feb 20, 2014, 2:32 PM

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Stop turning the key forward


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Feb 20, 2014, 7:28 PM

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Going off info posted in duplicate thread..

"1999 pontiac sunfire 2.2L AT 65000 miles
starter engages w/o key @ start position & remains engaged until quick shift to neutral but tries to reengage in other gears"

Is this an auto or manual trans? Why do you say the starter is remaining engaged? Have you verified that it is, or are you just hearing a grinding noise?


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Feb 21, 2014, 12:13 AM

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EESTER you'll get a notice of a reply made and use just this thread for now not new ones.


Starter solenoid on top of starter might not be releasing fully. It both makes the starter motor run AND throws the starter drive which is a smaller gear at the ring gear/flywheel to crank the engine. It should default to off when not triggered by you key so either mounted too tight, too close, still gets current from the ignition a little maybe, or plain sticky to return to off.


Which one? It would be nice to witness this once and take starter out IMO to look for problems off vehicle and some testing. This will damage starter if not already and or that larger gear mentioned that cranks the engine which will get expensive.


Don't allow this to happen anymore while there's a chance of little damage. Wild guess is starter itself can't back off when you let go of the key but needs inspection and knowing it's not getting live power to trigger it when it shouldn't,


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EESTER
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Feb 22, 2014, 5:44 PM

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Engine off, key in run position within 40 seconfs starter jumps to life., if by chance Bendix gear does retract when motor starts not 30 srconrd it's hittinmg the flywheel again. Made switched harness for everything going to sarter, i switched it off as soon as motor started, gear retracted engine ran very poorly exhaust very rich

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Tom Greenleaf
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Feb 22, 2014, 10:19 PM

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I'm tired, sorry. Whatever wiring you rigged the starter itself seems right but the engine seems to be operating as if it is in crank mode meaning it isn't changing over to plain run mode such that the fuel, spark and timing is all confused. Now I think this is ignition wiring or a switch issue that isn't allowing this to be controlled in plain "run" mode taking over which should happen when you let go of the key and isn't,


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