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richardlice
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Jun 25, 2014, 10:07 AM

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spittin and sputtering 1990 chevy truck Sign In

1990
chevrolet
cheyenne 1500
4.3 v6
turbo 400 trans.
120***
i just replaced the motor, the motor seems to run fine when at an idle in park or neutral, when i put it into gear and try to go it spits and sputters, when i get up to about 30 mph it seems to smooth out until i try to give it more throttle then it bogs down real hard, and starts the spitting and sputtering again with an occasional backfire, (my harbor freight timing light says its on time) the car also jerks every time it sputters. my first thought was a vacuum leak, i have checked my vacuum lines they all seem fine.
just not sure where else to look besides vacuum and timing.


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Jun 25, 2014, 10:48 AM

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Is this still fuel injected? Any trouble codes stored in the ECM? What is the fuel pressure doing the bogging?





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richardlice
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Jun 25, 2014, 11:03 AM

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throttle body injection no codes, wont bog or spit unless under load at 10 - 15mph then again at about 30-45


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Jun 25, 2014, 11:08 AM

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What is the fuel pressure when the bogging is going on? Vacuum leak won't cause bogging on acceleration.





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richardlice
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Jun 25, 2014, 11:41 AM

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i cant test the fuel pressure with the car running there is no valve to check i would have to disconnect the fuel line from the throttle body to test


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Jun 25, 2014, 12:02 PM

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They make an adapter that substituted for the fuel filter.



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richardlice
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Jun 25, 2014, 12:03 PM

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ok ill get one in the morning
would it hurt to go ahead and change the fuel pressure regulator


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Jun 25, 2014, 12:04 PM

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Why replace parts for no reason?



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richardlice
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Jun 26, 2014, 1:07 AM

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drove this morning to work now pretty much does the spitting and sputtering and backfiring when i try to give it gas, put it in neutral runs fine. going to get the test gauge at lunch,


richardlice
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Jun 26, 2014, 7:58 AM

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i have between 11 and 12 psi after the fuel filter


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Jun 26, 2014, 8:12 AM

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Was that tested with the engine running and the problem occurring?



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richardlice
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Jun 26, 2014, 8:39 AM

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yes with the engine running and the bogging happening at the same time no change in fuel pressure under load and without
also started doing it at an idle now unless i barely press the gas then it idles fine


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Jun 26, 2014, 8:48 AM

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OK, fuel pressure is ruled out then. I would be highly suspicious of all of the secondary igniition but the the coil or coil wire most of all.



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richardlice
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Jun 26, 2014, 9:29 AM

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what is the secondary ignition/


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Jun 26, 2014, 10:45 AM

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That would consist of the cap, rotor, wires, plugs and coil, everything that carries high voltage.



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Jun 26, 2014, 10:56 AM

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Did this problem start after you did the motor mounts? If so, you should check to make sure the distributor cap wasn't damaged when the motor was jacked up.





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richardlice
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Jul 11, 2014, 3:05 AM

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distributor was cracked at the base causing it to wobble a little causing the misfiring, I changed distributor, cap and button, got it running, came out this morning it fired up drove a mile and now the injectors seem to have quit, they dont prime when you crank the motor i can hear the fuel pump kick on with the gas cap off, sitting at about a 1/4 tank of gas.


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Jul 11, 2014, 3:23 AM

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Check the fuel pressure again and test for injector pulse with a noid light.



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Jul 11, 2014, 3:50 AM

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Question: "Distributor Cracked" or the Cap and Rotor?


Cap and rotor =..........



Distributor is this= ..............two views....

From top if it shows.........



What broke where?


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richardlice
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Jul 11, 2014, 4:00 AM

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the bottom plate of the dizzy the part that the cap screws into, it came apart from the shaft


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Jul 11, 2014, 4:12 AM

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OK - I interpret that as in the bottom pic - right? If broken there cap and rotor are separate and couldn't fix crack in distributor itself. If that broken it wobbles shaft the rotor would trash the cap again right away??


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richardlice
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Jul 11, 2014, 4:15 AM

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more like the middle picture where the plate and dist. shaft meet.


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Jul 11, 2014, 4:27 AM

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Understand I think? If the cap or rotor involved new ones of those do nothing. Shaft has bushing that can wear out. Most a PITA to do just bushings so most would go for a new or rebuilt unit with new module and one showed whole set up with cap and rotor too for just $10 bucks more.


The metal and shaft is the distributor not the cap and rotor which depend on it being correct and certainly not wobble. Might not even be the issue at hand but side to side wobble of shaft can't hold rotor in place and CRASH out with cap almost certainly if bad enough to notice it wobble, T


richardlice
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Jul 11, 2014, 5:05 AM

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i got a distr. from the pull it yard for 10 bucks it seems to work fine, i have to go to town to get the test light set its like 20.






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