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r286ps2
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May 3, 2015, 4:13 PM
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CV Joint Noise and play
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I have a video of what I noticed. I am having noise and cannot figure out if it is a wheel bearing or Axle issue. The 2005 VW GTI Auto just had new aftermarket axles installed.
Now I am hearing this noise when moving the Axle side to side by hand it is a clunking sound with some play, Does this sound normal? I hear a bad grinding noise at lower speed and a vibration at around 3500 RPMs. I am posting the video link below.
http://tinypic.com/r/2dky1c7/8
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Tom Greenleaf
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May 4, 2015, 4:28 AM
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Those axles (1/2 shafts) get rebuilt almost always. With what you showed it either isn't close to the correct axle or installation went all wrong. Don't drive it that way at all till corrected,
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Tom Greenleaf
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May 4, 2015, 6:26 AM
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Unless I watched the wrong thing that was plain wobbling around like it was an entire different size or bearing hub trashed beyond much you could push like that.
Those 1/2 shafts spin at the speed of the wheel, no motion should really show by hand like that!
Didn't say in first reply but would try to get the core back to at least match up for the right one as I somehow think it's all the wrong part or possible? A hub that bad (has splines inside) would fail in feet not miles!
If as I think it might be not only did the new shaft not work out it probably ruined the hub/bearing as well now - must have.
Have to say not safe to drive this car right now,
T
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Tom Greenleaf
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May 4, 2015, 1:32 PM
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Please, let me/us......... the world know what was found. I can't believe the shop could mess up that bad from what I saw. Good luck that it gets fixed right this time,
T
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May 4, 2015, 4:14 PM
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CV axles usually don't make grinding noises. They could cause vibrations on acceleration or cause clicking noises. You should be checking out your wheel bearings.
Since we volunteer our time and knowledge, we ask for you to please follow up when a problem is resolved.
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r286ps2
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May 4, 2015, 6:35 PM
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Well the shop is telling me it is a the Sway Bar Bushing. I am not sure how the bushings would cause a constant thump almost like a grinding sound. The noise is not dependent on the hitting bumps it is a constant intermittent grinding sound at low speeds.
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Tom Greenleaf
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May 4, 2015, 7:19 PM
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Again - what I saw in your video of movement would ruin a hub about instantly. You've said a couple times that it's an independent shop and usually that's a good thing. Any place is still subject to the exact tech and what protocol the shop has for releasing a car/job as fixed or who knows one by one.
Now you are being told "Sway Bar" bushings? YOU WERE GRABING THE AXLE/HALF SHAFT not a sway bar that I saw! Most vehicles you can take a sway bar off the vehicle totally with little non aggressive driving impact!
Now what? Seems like you are getting excuses for more work not fix the problem. I'm not there (duh) to see this in person but think something went all wrong messing with it in the first place. Hub inside race may be squished into bits - never saw that in person but that shaft isn't working out inside that hub!
Can't decide for you but think it's time for another shop,
T
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r286ps2
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May 5, 2015, 10:49 AM
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I brought it back and had the tech ride in the car with me he wasn't sure what it was but said it does not sound like a wheel bearing because it goes away at higher speeds. He is going to look at it some more but I think is is thinking that the bushing may affect the axle which could be making the noise. I will wait to see what they say but this is getting outrageous. It seems like a lot of mechanic have no idea how to work on a VW.
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Tom Greenleaf
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May 5, 2015, 11:57 AM
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Here's your video again.....
http://tinypic.com/...amp;s=8#.VUkPCulFBjo
Did a tech look at that? I see both in and out and seems up and down on the shaft. Can you steady the camera and take a better one but really that one was pretty good.
Hey - if techs or a whole shop doesn't want "Euro" car work then just say so. There are some differences and tools plus costs of repair info on demand they should have. It's a dang VW and they would be cutting out a lot of cars out there.
Let's start over a bit. Did this make the exact same noise when you took it in? If so they missed it and that can happen then test their own work if NG call you that they need more time and discuss it with you - something - not this "it might be this or that on top" endlessly.
IDK, shaft was out if replaced and with a silly shop rag could have felt the hub and bearing right then. Maybe it is all kinds of elusive but I doubt it.
Are you willing to show in person to another shop what your video shows? For all I can see the new shaft is NG, not common to me but wouldn't rule anything out now.
This joint seems like they just want to be done with this and not take it seriously so far?
T
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