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2005 Chev Cavalier - 2.2L Eco - 80,000KM


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iamoasis
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Sep 9, 2013, 10:26 AM

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2005 Chev Cavalier - 2.2L Eco - 80,000KM Sign In

Hello Forum,

I will try to describe an issue that has recently started with my 05 Cavalier. It's surely something that a mechanic would be able to diagnose with ease so I will try to be thorough with my description.

When I drive the car in a straight line, no problems. We'll say I have one hand at the 12 oclock position on the wheel. If I start turning ever so slightly to the left (11 oclock position...), my car emits a high pitch squeaking (almost like metal on metal grinding, almost like when your brake pads are worn and the wear indicators starts to grind). If I return to the 12 oclock and go to the 1 oclock, nothing. So clearly my car makes a sound when I start turning towards the left. It doesn't necessarily get increasingly noisier the more left I turn, it does maybe from the 12 oclock to 9 oclock say... but after that it's a steady solid squeaking/screeching/metal grinding sound.

I don't think it's a wheel bearing since I've had to replace those on my 99 in the past on a few occasions and the symptoms/sounds for that was more a lower grinding, and got worse as you continued to turn. My problem on the 05 is high pitch. Also, another indicator is that when I turn left on my 05, the high pitch seems to come from the left side of the car too. Whereas if it were a wheel bearing and I turned left, then it would indicate that the right wheel bearing needs replacement (and therefore the sound would be coming from the right ride of the car, not the left like in my case)... anyway I'm not a mechanic nor will I pretend to think that I'm well verse in automotive mechanics. I have basic knowledge and have done only basic repairs (brakes, bearings and tie rods).

If anyone has any thoughts on what this could be, I would certainly appreciate your assistance.

Thank you,
Stephane


Tom Greenleaf
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Sep 9, 2013, 11:20 AM

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Re: 2005 Chev Cavalier - 2.2L Eco - 80,000KM Sign In

Brakes can do that. Does using the brakes make the sound change? Wear sensors frequently shut up with brakes applied and screech when off.

You need to check them and look for even wear from one side (axle) to the other. You may need to take calipers up and off to see if something is wrong with pads,

T



iamoasis
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Sep 9, 2013, 12:11 PM

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Re: 2005 Chev Cavalier - 2.2L Eco - 80,000KM Sign In

Hi Tom,

Thanks for the reply. I will check. I guess I will make a right run and brake at the same time to see what happens.

Thanks
Stephane


Tom Greenleaf
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Sep 9, 2013, 4:41 PM

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Again - they may have to come off to inspect. I've seen good looking for wear pads just have cracks and odd noises. If when replaced last the rotors weren't serviced or replaced the new pads won't be happy and a rusty ring can imbed in pads or make odd noises.

It would be very unlikely if just dragging brake a little when it makes this noise didn't change the noise. You seemed to know that bearings generally will growl not squeak so much but moving parts can do about what they want.

It really needs a good look and check asap as you know,

T



iamoasis
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Sep 9, 2013, 5:57 PM

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So I think you are right with your diagnostic.

I drove around and when I applied the brakes the noise stops. if I tap and release the noise starts and stops. this sounds dumb and it is.... but I sprayed liyhium grease on the rotor... I know dumb... and drove around and no sound at all.


iamoasis
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Sep 9, 2013, 5:59 PM

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I will need to remove the tire and look, but I thinkyou were right Tom.

Thank you.


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Sep 10, 2013, 12:31 AM

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Don't grease a friction surface ever. That will trash those brakes so just plan on doing them. Clean that off as best you can NOW with Bra-Kleen is a brand which will not get burned in lube out of pads so they are junk right now.

Don't ask why but some brakes are just noisy even when not worn out or a couple weeks after doing them all new - just happens.

Parts makers I've liked.......

Bendix AKA Allied Signal has been good.

Centric has been good but expensive. Claim is quiet and no dust mess,

Tom

Some luck with cheaper stuff but AYOR



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Sep 10, 2013, 2:52 AM

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but I sprayed liyhium grease on the rotor... I know dumb... and drove around and no sound at all.



Dumb................ is a real understatement.

You just forced your hand. If you didn't need a brake job before, you sure need one now and if you don't get it immediately, you can plan on replacing the rotors, even if you weren't going to have to before.



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iamoasis
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Sep 10, 2013, 5:13 AM

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Absolutely. I was planning on replacing the pads, rotors and calipers. At the price I can get them crossing the border at O'Reilly it sickening. I can replace all those parts, pay for my gas to drive down there and still come out ahead than if I were to have a shop here do the work. Somehow the states sell parts cheap compared to here.

Also, I just wanted to thank Hammer Time to reiterating what I stated that was already being dumb as being an understatement. You surely know how to make some feel good...


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Sep 10, 2013, 5:30 AM

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Happy to oblige.

If you're going to do something that stupid and dangerous, you are going to get called out.

I'm all for helping the capable DIYer but some people should leave the repairs to the professionals.



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Sep 10, 2013, 6:00 AM

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This must be dumb week in the forum...lol





Since we volunteer our time and knowledge, we ask for you to please follow up when a problem is resolved.


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Sep 10, 2013, 6:59 AM

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I'm afraid so.



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iamoasis
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Sep 10, 2013, 8:09 AM

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Forgive me for making a mistake.


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Sep 10, 2013, 9:00 AM

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Is that what you would say to the judge if that bonehead move caused an accident and killed someone because the brakes were greased and they sued you for 5 million?

I don't perform heart surgery and you shouldn't touch brakes.



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iamoasis
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Sep 10, 2013, 11:03 AM

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I'm genuinely sorry. And you're right I won't pretend to be something I'm not.

Sorry about that HammerTime.


Hammer Time
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Sep 10, 2013, 11:14 AM

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No problem................ Now you need to get it fixed and not start driving it.



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