|
|
05 grand caravan ticking when warm
|
|
|
| |
|
|
bbohannon
Novice
Jan 26, 2012, 12:35 AM
Post #1 of 15
(2634 views)
|
|
05 grand caravan ticking when warm
|
Sign In
|
|
05 grand caravan 3.8 auto 90,000 bought van used rear head had been reworked. Anyhow first startup engine sounds great as it warms up faint ticking is heard the warmer it gets the louder the ticking gets been to 3 shops nobody wants my business it sounds like a lifter to me but all the shops say its not possible. Please help
Brian in Ga.
|
|
| |
|
|
Tom Greenleaf
Ultimate Carjunky
/ Moderator
Jan 26, 2012, 2:40 AM
Post #2 of 15
(2600 views)
|
|
Re: 05 grand caravan ticking when warm
|
Sign In
|
|
3 Shops decline...... Hmmmm? All three said a lifter is not possible? Not sure as of course not there to hear it and would have to be.
Brian - I think the problem is (with the shops) that they don't want to own that problem if they touch it and it comes back without a total top end overhaul if this is the engine itself or could it be some funky exhaust noise being heard most of which get quieter when warmer.
What if you have gauges (just can't say what each option package does) the oil pressure look like at idle when warm? Perhaps as this is quiet when cold it's inadequate when warm as oil will thin and pressure wont read what it would in the first few minutes or a bit more.
Do you know why the head was replaced + reworked to begin with?
Not sure how far you want to go with this but perhaps try shop #4, get oil pressure checked when warm, pull that valve cover and could still all be unsuccessful without going nuts on this engine.
Maybe and has worked for me on many and all I use is synthetic oil is to try that and see if it changes or gets better. Can't hurt,
T
|
|
| |
|
|
bbohannon
Novice
Jan 26, 2012, 4:07 AM
Post #3 of 15
(2595 views)
|
|
Re: 05 grand caravan ticking when warm
|
Sign In
|
|
Oil Psi seems stable head was reworked because of overheat from previous owner. Tried different oils/ weights. I added motorhoney to see what would happen it stopped for a day. I am a mechanic but traded my toolbox for a degree been out of the shop for 9 years and now I am second guessing my thoughts on what to rule out. Lifter,valve, timing chain, rocker. Can't really pinpoint location of noise other than not the front head I understand it is rough / expensive to remove intake Plenum ..... OK I give
|
|
| |
|
|
Hammer Time
Ultimate Carjunky
/ Moderator
Jan 26, 2012, 4:16 AM
Post #4 of 15
(2591 views)
|
|
Re: 05 grand caravan ticking when warm
|
Sign In
|
|
I am seeing the picture being painted here.
You did your own repair on the head the way you thought it should be done or maybe you bought it that way. Now there is a problem with the work and you are walking into a shop telling them what you think the problem is and they don't agree with you nor want to get involved. ....... What a surprise
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
We offer help in answering questions, clarifying things or giving advice but we are not a substitute for an on-site inspection by a professional.
(This post was edited by Hammer Time on Jan 26, 2012, 4:17 AM)
|
|
| |
|
|
bbohannon
Novice
Jan 26, 2012, 4:27 AM
Post #5 of 15
(2586 views)
|
|
Re: 05 grand caravan ticking when warm
|
Sign In
|
|
No bought it that way.... a the wife has taken to the shops because I don't want to explain why I don't do it myself I know all the shop owners in the town
|
|
| |
|
|
bbohannon
Novice
Jan 26, 2012, 4:54 AM
Post #7 of 15
(2572 views)
|
|
Re: 05 grand caravan ticking when warm
|
Sign In
|
|
OK... any suggestions hammer
|
|
| |
|
|
Tom Greenleaf
Ultimate Carjunky
/ Moderator
Jan 26, 2012, 4:55 AM
Post #8 of 15
(2572 views)
|
|
Re: 05 grand caravan ticking when warm
|
Sign In
|
|
I do,
T
|
|
| |
|
|
Hammer Time
Ultimate Carjunky
/ Moderator
Jan 26, 2012, 5:05 AM
Post #9 of 15
(2560 views)
|
|
Re: 05 grand caravan ticking when warm
|
Sign In
|
|
The floor is yours Tom
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
We offer help in answering questions, clarifying things or giving advice but we are not a substitute for an on-site inspection by a professional.
|
|
| |
|
|
bbohannon
Novice
Jan 26, 2012, 5:20 AM
Post #10 of 15
(2555 views)
|
|
Re: 05 grand caravan ticking when warm
|
Sign In
|
|
I realize I have to put my big boy pants on an do it myself I was just wondering if anyone had a suggestion or had experienced this before. I learned long ago ask if you are unsure
|
|
| |
|
|
Hammer Time
Ultimate Carjunky
/ Moderator
Jan 26, 2012, 5:28 AM
Post #11 of 15
(2549 views)
|
|
Re: 05 grand caravan ticking when warm
|
Sign In
|
|
As much as I try turning up my keyboard, I still can't here your noise and therefore have no idea what the noise is. Since nobody in your town wants to deal with you, you may just have to travel outside of town to get some help.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
We offer help in answering questions, clarifying things or giving advice but we are not a substitute for an on-site inspection by a professional.
|
|
| |
|
|
Tom Greenleaf
Ultimate Carjunky
/ Moderator
Jan 26, 2012, 5:33 AM
Post #12 of 15
(2545 views)
|
|
Re: 05 grand caravan ticking when warm
|
Sign In
|
|
OK - This overheated you said enough to need a replacement head, ONE and that was redone presumably by a machine shop. Why just service ONE? You are a mechanic as you said and IMO if you had done that to a customer you would eat it.
The "oil honey" as you put it worked for a day - hmmm - there's your clue,
T
|
|
| |
|
|
bbohannon
Novice
Jan 26, 2012, 5:46 AM
Post #13 of 15
(2540 views)
|
|
Re: 05 grand caravan ticking when warm
|
Sign In
|
|
Thanks guys
|
|
| |
|
|
techforfree
User
Mar 8, 2012, 10:39 AM
Post #14 of 15
(2419 views)
|
|
Re: 05 grand caravan ticking when warm
|
Sign In
|
|
my 2 cents is on a bad or dirty lifter or oil passage.to be honest..we use a product called sea foam and have had great results with dirty lifters but won't repair a bad lifter.Its worth 6 bucks to give it a try..just wondering if the place didn't get a rocker torqued properly and ran loose..it happens...good luck
|
|
| |
|
|
Discretesignals
Ultimate Carjunky
/ Moderator
Mar 8, 2012, 7:03 PM
Post #15 of 15
(2414 views)
|
|
Re: 05 grand caravan ticking when warm
|
Sign In
|
|
Or when they had the head off got a bunch of rockers, shims, and/or push rods mixed up. Some of those things have their own wear patterns and when you swap them all over the place can cause lash problems.
Motor honey? Can I put that on my pancakes?
Since we volunteer our time and knowledge, we ask for you to please follow up when a problem is resolved.
(This post was edited by Discretesignals on Mar 8, 2012, 7:11 PM)
|
|
| |
|
Auto Repair Home
SEARCH
WHO'S 
LOG 
2006 Toyoto Camry XLE Driver Side Electric Window Trouble
Tierod end change caused some kind of leak
Grounding Cable, 2017 Jeep Renegade Trailhawk
equipment
Howdy
